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NeverEverAnythingEver · 06/04/2017 23:21

I thought we could have a thread to chat about playing! I play the piano (not as badly as I fear but not as well as I hope) and have recently tried my hand at chamber music. Would love to hear what other people are doing.

CoteDAzur Here's a picture of the instruments they used in Rameau's Dardanus.

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NeverEverAnythingEver · 30/10/2017 20:21

cote I've made about 10 recordings of the 4th double and they are all pants. :(

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CoteDAzur · 30/10/2017 21:00

Oh I’m sure they’re fine! Anyway take your time I should also get around to recording them again before I totally forget Gavotte & 6 D.

CoteDAzur · 30/10/2017 21:12

Meanwhile, latest in the search for Ground sheet music: My teacher sent an email to Caroline HVX who plays Ground in the link I posted above. (From her CD). Yes, apparently they know each other. And she said that she got it from Atelier Philidor, the manuscript I found upthread.

The 1st page of Ground is visible on the website, so my teacher said I should just print that & write down the rest myself. That should be interesting Grin

TheMaestro · 30/10/2017 21:51

I found another bit of Anthony Young, but I couldn't find the Ground.

CoteDAzur · 30/10/2017 22:00

Thanks Maestro. Yes, Petrucci was the 1st place I looked, too.

The melody is simple enough that I should be OK playing it by ear, especially since the left hand doesn’t change much.

CoteDAzur · 31/10/2017 14:51

Meanwhile, I am stuck at home with sick DC and have been practicing like a loon Shock Grin I did about 3 hours yesterday and another 3 hours today (so far), mostly on Rameau's Courante that I linked to below. I'm pretty good on the first half now and the second half is coming along nicely, too.

There is that incredibly beautiful bit in the second half that seriously distracts me to the point that I can't concentrate on playing it. Which is weird, because it's not even that hard to play compared to the rest of the piece. It's almost like my brain wants to just listen to it rather than make sure that my fingers are playing it Hmm

It's just an exquisite piece of music. I read a book on Rameau where it was praised thus:

Greatness less dramatic and more majestic is found in the A minor Courante. This piece is almost unknown; it is not included in any anthology and no writer every mentions it... Yet it is one of the summits of Rameau's art. No movement of his combines in such measure emotional force and cunning artistry. Its broad sweeps up and down the keyboard, its striding arpeggios, its contrasted rhythms, its pathetic progressions, its sequences, strike at the hearer's feelings, whilst its unfailing coherence satisfies his intelligence with a vision of grandiose oneness.

A mere analysis would lead one to believe it was a piece of cerebral note-spinning; yet with all its calculated construction it is emotional, obsessive, almost nerve-racking music... Some of these themes are exquisitely lyrical, as haunting as Dido's lament, and this union of rhythmical and harmonic roughness with expressive song is one of the secrets of this piece's charm.

The first half is mainly in the minor; the second passes almost at once into the relative major and remains there for a spell; this is the most splendid reach of its course. When it returns to A minor... the second half closes with the torturing sequences already heard at the end of the first.

This haughty though emotional piece does not admit one easily into its intimacy. Perhaps the chief obstacle lies in its rhythms... the scales must flow, or swing with the slow regularity of a pendulum; the arpeggios must stride; the dotted minims must sustain; all of which is obvious but not easy to carry off. Grace notes are less common than elsewhere and are for emphasis, equivalents of sforzandos on the piano. More than this it is not useful to say. The door has to be knocked on more than once before it will open, but of the riches within there is no doubt and the effort is worth while.

NeverEverAnythingEver · 31/10/2017 18:11
. Ignore wrong notes. Grin
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CoteDAzur · 01/11/2017 09:27

Very nice! I watched it with DC who said “Mummy your friend plays it more staccato than you” (musical children Grin). Which is true, because I play it like on harpsichord where notes just die if you don’t hold down the keys for a bit.

Hard to judge from this angle but I think you hold your hands better than me where they overlap, as well.

NeverEverAnythingEver · 02/11/2017 15:37

I've got a way to go yet with this double. I'll record the other two and then give it all a rest.

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LooseAtTheSeams · 03/11/2017 08:48

Never that was lovely! Very impressed with the hands, also.
Also have sick child at home so have had to reschedule stuff and now thinking about piano practice. No lesson this week because teacher was ill but will have two next week to make up for it.

CoteDAzur · 03/11/2017 08:58

DC are still sick. Both are now on antibiotics.

Yesterday was our 5th day at home & I did another 3 hours on the piano. I’m now pretty good at the 2nd half of the Courante, too. I dare say my teacher will be a bit Shock on Tuesday Smile (She was already surprised I managed to play the 1st half last week, as she was saying “This piece is very difficult but give it a go, see how you cope”)

DayDreamer511 · 03/11/2017 11:49

I just wanted to come back on to let you guys know I found a piano teacher and my first lesson is on the 15th! Excited is an understatement 😄

CoteDAzur · 03/11/2017 16:07

Yay! That’s great news, Day Smile

NeverEverAnythingEver · 03/11/2017 21:23

Exciting DayDreamer! Will you prepare something to play?

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ImLikeABird87 · 03/11/2017 23:34

Thanks guys ☺️ Oh I don’t know. I feel like if I prepare something to play I’ll most probably mess it up as I’m so out of practice and I don’t have much self confidence right now when it comes to piano. I’m just so excited to start though. I told the teacher not to expect much from me on my first lesson but that I’m ready & willing to put in the work required to become very competent. I’ll keep you updated with my progress. Never, I just watched the video you uploaded a few days ago... Fantastic! Well done you Smile

NeverEverAnythingEver · 04/11/2017 08:57

For my first lesson I played something quite easy quite badly and wailed "and I can't even play this properly" and by the end of the lesson I could. Grin

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DayDreamer511 · 04/11/2017 10:01

How do you upload videos? I’m trying to upload one but it’s just giving me the option to upload images. I’d love to show you guys my starting point so that I can share my progress.

CoteDAzur · 04/11/2017 10:21

You need to upload to YouTube (you can set it to Private) and post the link to it here.

CoteDAzur · 04/11/2017 10:22

I’d love to see it Smile Love seeing progress!

DayDreamer511 · 04/11/2017 11:02

m.youtube.com/watch?v=IVlrxWazH10

Right, I’m very embarrassed to upload this. It’s riddled with mistakes, my fingers look awful Sad but it’s a starting point and I want to be able to measure my progress. Hopefully the next video will be much improved.

DayDreamer511 · 04/11/2017 12:09

I hope the link has worked okay?

CoteDAzur · 04/11/2017 13:05

It says “This video is unavailable”.

Can you watch it yourself on YouTube?

DayDreamer511 · 04/11/2017 13:07

Yes, I can watch it. When I selected for it to be private, it said “(only you can view it)” so I assume that’s the problem. How do I make it private with others being able to view it?

CoteDAzur · 04/11/2017 13:11

There should be an option where people who have the link can see it, but I’m not sure. Maybe take it off private?

DayDreamer511 · 04/11/2017 13:15

That’s it set to public now :)

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