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Toxic class parents/ toxic community

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Queenie85 · 19/01/2025 14:44

Just wanted to some advice about school and how to handle a difficult and unsupportive community.

For background: My 8 old daughter has additional needs, (ASD, ADHD and dyspraxia) and has an EHCP at school. When she started reception at school just under 3.5 years ago, she had no diagnoses, no EHCP and was still in nappy pants. Dad and I were fighting hard for diagnoses but had come up against significant difficulties with HV, GP, children’s Outreach Worker and preschool, only really got the support and understanding we needed when my daughter started school. They seemed to completely see her needs and immediately applied for an EHCP assessment. Before this, the professionals who were supposed to help us continually tried to blame our parenting. It was the most stressful time, as my husband and I knew we were trying our best and implementing every parenting strategy in the book. I also have 3 chronic illnesses and we have no family near, so we were actually doing pretty amazing. There were never any reasons for their false claims about our parenting; all of them tried to get social services involved several times and it kept getting closed down immediately, for obvious reasons.

Anyway, when my daughter started school, we had a really difficult first day, in that my daughter walked in with her best friend, (my neighbours little boy)- they had grown up together and spent almost every day together including at a shared childminder. They walked in together hand in hand, and when we got to the school gates, my neighbour separated their hands, cried and screamed at the top of her lungs that we would never ever walk in together again. That was it, no explanation. I burst into tears, took her into school and then took my other Sen child (he was 3 at the time) to the childminder. The childminder got me a cup of tea, listened to me and I explained I felt she was embarrassed of me and the kids. We had been best friends for such a long time and I felt she just let me down big time. She then walked in to drop off her daughter, asked if we had been talking about her, could see our guilty faces, and walked out. The following day, she removed her daughter from our childminder and ended her contract, out of nowhere.

Anyway, my daughter started at school and quickly made friends because she is such a lovely little girl. I realised pretty quickly though that she was never invited for play dates, hardly ever invited to parties, and that other parents hardly spoke to me. By the time my daughter entered year 1 at school, there seemed to be a really heavy toxic atmosphere in her class, not from the children, but from the parents. My friendship with my neighbour had deteriorated somewhat, but she was still, in my opinion, ‘pretending’ to be my friend. I felt like I was continually getting death stares from others, blanked by other parents and treated with absolutely no respect. I noticed that some of the other children were starting to treat my daughter in the same way.

By the end of year 1, my daughter had an EHCP in place. The school have never really followed her EHCP and I have held multiple reviews with the LA and senco, put in multiple complaints.
By the time my daughter started year 2, my son started in reception. The atmosphere was instantly different in his class, he also has additional needs, was recently diagnosed with ADHD and put on medication, is still awaiting an autism assessment. He was instantly invited to parties and to extracurricular activities with his classmates, the other parents spoke to me with respect and did not ignore me. He was included wholly, other parents told us what a good job we were doing, there were kind and supportive.

It was at this point that I realised that something was just not right in my daughter’s class, I instantly expected my son’s class to be the same and they were not.
My neighbour started being indirectly abusive to me at times, she started saying awful things about me being on benefits, she supported other neighbours in harrassment of us, I started realising that the parents giving us death stares were her best friends. I also was hit by another realisation: she was the receptionist at my doctors surgery, and the care we had there was awful. My neighbour said to me several times she had read my records (and the children’s, as well as our other neighbours) she told me really unprofessional things the Doctors had said about me. I had a number of unprofessional encounters with them, including a time where they totally neglected me and I actually had multiple blood clots on my lung but they refused to examine me properly. I could not get my kids referred under them at all. My neighbour used to take a lot of glee in telling me awful things (and lies) staff had written about me. I then realised she was directly involved, and moved myself, my husband and kids straight out of that surgery.

As soon as I moved, my new GP stated whole parts of my record had been deleted, which was disgusting to start with, and I wholly blame my neighbour. He immediately referred me out to 3 specialists, and my children started being diagnosed shortly after.

Well my neighbour did not like that we had moved without telling her, and I think she felt like she had lost control over us. Shortly after this, I was not well at all, I had multiple clots on my lungs again and could hardly breathe, I was struggling getting the kids to school and started walking them another way around because I was fearful I could not control the kids properly near a main road when I was so poorly, and knew that not one parent in my daughter’s class would offer to help. So she shouted out of the window at me in the garden one day, that another parent was gossiping about me, I asked what and she continued to make up a lie about why I was walking the wrong way to school. I told her what was actually going on and she told me I was lying and she had it on good authority I was lying! I said what reason would I have to lie and slammed the door on her! I could not understand what she was trying to do. The following week, she caught me outside the house and began shouting at me, that I was an awful friend, all I wanted was a pity party, and the reason I had no friends is because nobody liked me! I told her she was an awful friend let alone neighbours and had never supported me.

We didn’t speak for a month but soon after she apologised and tried to make it up to me. I was cautious, she didn’t come to my vow renewal and made up a crappy excuse, she was obviously still spreading rumours about me. On Halloween, another parent came to her door (her house wasn’t decorated) who she knows has been awful to me and my Sen daughter in public. I offered her daughter, who was dressed up a sweet, and she replied ‘we don’t want anything from you’! I was both shocked and confused, I was waiting for my neighbour to defend me, and when it didn’t come I just shut my door and began crying silent tears. When my neighbour returned from trick or treating, I asked are you friends now then? And she replied no, I have no idea why she was there. I asked why she didn’t defend me, and she said ‘I’m sorry, I was just as shocked as you were’. I said why did she say that to me, and she replied ‘I don’t know, she is just rude’.

I didn’t really buy it, and a few days later when she snuck in this particular parent into her house for a cup of tea after school run, and pretended it never happened when I asked her why she was there, and it just sealed it for me, I couldn’t trust her and we did not have a real friendship. It totally fizzled out for me, she kept pretending we were friends but I totally switched off after that. Last summer, she approached my PA, and told her that I was not disabled, that I lie and cheat the government, she should leave her family because she deserves better. She then shouted at my husband in the street, same old rubbish, tell her we are not friends, tell her never to talk to me, and then burst into fake tears while this other Mum, who has been nothing but rude to me, pulled her away saying ‘we were not worth it’.

I have now not spoken to her for 7 months. I found out she approached my Mum and told her she was a rubbish daughter and she deserves better, and approached our neighbour and told her that I didn’t like her. Unfortunately no matter what I have said I do not think my neighbour has believed me over her lies. I feel totally isolated in my community, I know she has stepped up her lies, she has become really antisocial, and worst of all, she is trying to get her son and all her friends kids to isolate my daughter at school. This started as not giving my daughter a Christmas card, but is progressing into trying to get her to call out in class (and get her in trouble) and stealing her belongings and throwing or hiding them. I have spoken to school and nothing is being done.

I realise now that my neighbour is a manipulative narcissist. It only took me 7 years. Other parents in my daughter’s class now don’t even acknowledge me, we get death stares daily, our neighbours are weird with us. I have had enough, I am having counselling for extreme anxiety.

I have no idea what to do about her flying monkeys and how to make things better for my daughter at school, I am fed up, mentally and spiritually broken and at a loss. If I could move I would. Has anyone else had anything similar and what do you do? I am told time will reveal what she is (and to be honest, all she does is bitch and gossip about others, including her own friends and neighbours) but in the meantime I have to live here. My daughter’s mental health is at an all time low, she self harms and shows signs of anorexia. I know she is not happy in her class and it hurts my heart that other adults can get children to make her feel a certain way. People are so cruel.

Any hints on how to deal with narcissistic neighbours/ narc parents or flying monkeys on the school run?

Many thanks for reading this far. I am on edge every day.

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Whutwhy · 19/01/2025 22:45

Sorry OP haven’t read whole thing as insanely long
but from the beginning bit I don’t understand it at all? Tore their hands apart eh?
sorry but this all sounds a bit batshit

Whutwhy · 19/01/2025 22:46

Just take a step back and crack on with your own life is my advice

Whutwhy · 19/01/2025 22:46

Do none of you work? Seems you all need something to occupy yourselves instead of this drama?

Queenie85 · 20/01/2025 07:10

This all 100% happened, and it sounds batshit because she is batshit crazy. I suppose because she is a narcissist?! To be honest, your comment to me sounds narcissistic too, and is massively triggering. It’s long, because I have endured 8 years of this. It is not drama, it is my real life.
And no, I don’t work, because I have ehlers-danlos syndrome, fibromyalgia, a blood clotting disorder, PTSD and extreme social anxiety. I have lost a dozen jobs In probation when I tried to work too. But thanks for your lovely comment, I will take it on board that there are even more people out there who lack empathy, understanding and common sense, and will say things just to upset others. Have a good day.

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Queenie85 · 20/01/2025 07:14

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Namechangeforthis88 · 20/01/2025 07:25

Ignore them, this thread has popped up in Active and is possibly attracting AIBU crowd rather than Mumsnetters with disabilities commenters.

You have a challenging life at the best of times, and you have fallen prey to some manipulative bitch next door. It sounds like you would have had grounds for complaints to the GP surgery on several counts, that might well get her sacked. Not sure that would make your life easier though.

If you can't move, or change schools you are seriously going to have to detach yourself mentally from this woman and her flying monkeys, is your daughter still at same school? Could she change?

Queenie85 · 20/01/2025 08:17

Thank you for your reply. This was actually 18 months ago, finally got up the courage to complain about her to the ICB two weeks ago. Long story short, they said they would take complaint despite being out of 12 months because I fit into exceptional criteria, but they said I had to agree to share this with my GP surgery and that they had to investigate this themselves. I asked if they then had to disclose this to my neighbour given that the bulk of the complaint is about her lack of confidentiality- and tbh I feel that they could easily see how many times she accessed my records inappropriately on her nhs card- but they said they have to discuss this with her directly, before they even collate evidence. This put the fear of God into me, because I knew that once she knew she was being investigated and that I was the source, that abuse from her and her flying monkeys would step up. I don’t think I am strong enough for this. So I withdrew the complaint. I wish I was braver to persue it.
And to be 100% honest, I think that her employer is likely to cover it up, because they were complicit in a lot of it,

I don’t have a good experience with the nhs at all, about 15 years ago I was back and forth to A&E about 3 or 4 times til they agreed to a chest X-ray and realised I had a giant mass next to my left lung. It took them 6 days to get me in for a CT scan, and 2 days later, they got me in for an emergency bed and said I had 14 blood clots across my lungs. I collapsed at home twice in that time and nearly died. I had the 20cm mass removed, and finally after surgery. (And thankfully) they found it was benign, but they arranged no follow up for me and I had loads of issues since. I found out soon afterwards that a lot of my notes related to this event have been deleted shortly afterwards by NHS. My surgery were unaware this ever happened bar a huge scar through my back. I had a huge clotting event during my second pregnancy too, and again it nearly killed me. I was ignored by all my specialist doctors and midwives for weeks before I collapsed and ended up in hospital on oxygen for 6 days, and then home oxygen. They then messed up my induction which put me and my baby son at risk. Following this, I appointed a solicitor to sue for medical neglect, she requested my records, and they had all disappeared, so no case. I have been gaslit by endless Doctors since over various issues, and a therapist has said they think I have medical PTSD. I have a very hard time trusting the NHS now. I have had 11 episodes of blood clotting now too, been gaslit almost every time.

We have looked into other schools, because she has an EHCP we have to move through the LA, they have consulted 3 other schools and all three have said they cannot meet their needs.

It is so frustrating, I feel at a loss with it all.

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Sixtop · 20/01/2025 08:20

Are you saying that your neighbour deleted large swathes of your NHS records?

Queenie85 · 20/01/2025 08:42

I can only assume that she deleted it. My current GP (since I moved surgery) picked up on it, he told me he was sorry to tell me that huge chunks of my medical records went missing. And thankfully he did not gaslight me and suggest I was making up all my conditions. He went to every hospital I have visited, and requested all of my paper records to reconstruct my file. They had a giant paper file arrive in and I assume that most of it has been restored. Checking online, GPs that discover this have to report the previous practitioners who have done this to ICB. My doctor is brilliant now, and I feel assured he probably did do this. But I don’t actually know because he never told me. Who knows, it may be the reason she kicked off at my last summer out of the blue, because I am still absolutely stumped as to why she did that. But she has kept her job, hence why I said that surgery is corrupt sadly 😞

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Phthia · 21/01/2025 09:59

I doubt that medical records could go missing. The system would flag up if things were being deleted by someone unauthorised, and in any event the records would still be recoverable.

If your current GP thinks they have been deleted, have they raised this with your previous doctors?

Queenie85 · 21/01/2025 13:09

They did go missing, there was significant chunks of records missing from when I had multiple clots on my lungs, and I attended the GP. All my test results over 2 years were missing (and I had several tests done). I’m pretty sure he would have raised it with the ICB to be honest, but in any event they received a giant stack of paper records back from hospitals. Apparently it is common in NHS for records to go missing when they fear reprisals, and it has actually happened to me before. But moreover, the reason I suspect my neighbour is the fact she was so adamant to tell everyone that I wasn’t disabled and that I was scamming the government, she wanted them to take away my benefits and my personal budget and still wanted control over me and the way others saw me.

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