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UK MNer with at least one child aged 4-14? Sign up to test Smartick’s online after-school maths programme

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EllieMumsnet · 07/05/2019 16:17

Smartick are looking for Mumsnet users and their children to trial its online after-school maths programme for children. This product test is open to all UK MNers with at least one child between the ages of 4 and 14, that have access to an internet-enabled computer/laptop or tablet. Selected testers will receive a six-month subscription (a value of over £100) to Smartick after testing is completed and have up to 4 weeks to try and review it.

Here’s what Smartick have to say: “Smartick is an award-winning, AI-based, online maths programme designed to develop mathematical abilities in children ages 4 to 14. Smartick promotes an understanding of maths through personalised and accelerated learning by adapting to each child's level and learning pace in real time, allowing them to work according to their maths needs and capability. Each child has a unique and personalised path that constantly adjusts to help fill in gaps in knowledge.

There are more than 20,000 users of Smartick in over 100 countries. e've collaborated with the MIT G-Lab and been published by Harvard Business Review and Forbes as well as featured as an app favourite by Apple.”

Selected testers can register for the program through a web browser on their PC or by downloading the Smartick app available for iOS or Android tablets. Smartick recommends that children work on their daily 15-minute sessions at least 5 days per week. This is not mandatory however it is suggested to get a better scope of the program.

All testers will be required to leave feedback on a thread on Mumsnet and also fill in a short survey, everyone who does will be entered into a prize draw where 3 MNers will win a £100 voucher of their choice (from a list).

To sign up to test Smartick, please click here.

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UK MNer with at least one child aged 4-14? Sign up to test Smartick’s online after-school maths programme
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GinUp · 22/05/2019 11:07

DD realised that it was an abacus of some kind but the different coloured beads on the same line threw her a bit. You learn something new every day though. :o

Kennehora · 22/05/2019 13:03

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MiliOli · 22/05/2019 13:44

Just started the app...
My 5 year old liked the questions but it did seem very repetitive, and the reader voice was very low had to pump the volume to top. she was not impressed with the village it was a bit slow. The app did slow down in one occasion we had to turn off and restart.

My 8 year old loved it, she is still going to be tested again, so still waiting to see what a normal day exercise is.
The app bugged a few times and that slowed down her response time and her competitive self got upset as she wanted to get top marks. She liked the village especially the trophy room.

I think for the first time using it it was ok there is a lot of different sections to find their way around but I think they will enjoy it.

Helix1244 · 22/05/2019 15:01

Second time using it today. Better on Kindle. Didnt fit on the phone.

jackparlabane · 22/05/2019 17:20

Have tried it with two kids now. Not impressed.

Son age 10
Big speech bubble over the avatars – when he clicked it went back to the login screen and then into my account.
Tried again, eventually the bubble went away but he thought all the avatars looked pretty stupid (I agree) – they are the sort of decoration you see in toddler rooms at nursery). He picked one.
It then said ‘this is the clock counting down your session’ but no clock visible. So we assumed the picture of pizza with some missing was a sort of countdown clock.

Then the textbox vanished and the pizza was actually part of a question about improper fractions. I’m not sure he’s encountered the tern ‘improper fraction’ (I HAVE!) but certainly fractions are quite hard at the moment. I don’t think it was a suitable question to start with, and some more guidance about what sort of questions there would be and how to answer would be needed.
The expected answer is 5/6 but in trying to make it ‘easy’ it asks how many equal parts each pizza is divided into, but one is divided into 3 and one into 2...

He panicked and ran away, so all a total waste of time.

I tried the various buttons which should have been explained before getting into the maths, had it go back to the non-existent clock and it crashed. The flashing images – the turquoise blob which I think is meant to be a hand on a mouse, especially – are horrible and have triggered a vestibular migraine.

In short, much more introduction needed, and surely the key to getting anyone to learn is to start simple with stuff they have a chance to do?!

Next day, daughter age 7:
Log in – she thought the avatars were silly and was disappointed the monster went away. We both had problems figuring out how to enter answers and where to click. After three questions it said “now you’ve had a chance to practise there will be an assessment” - and the questions were much easier than the ‘practice’!

Then we got to 1+2 = ?, and couldn’t enter an answer – no amount of clicking on the box and typing nor clicking on the number line would work. We skipped it and it asked if we wanted to go back. Same problem. Skipped again and same problem on the next (1+3 ducks).

Then Venn diagrams – very unclear what items were in the ‘excluded’ part and what were the labels we were supposed to be adding. Boxes round would have helped. It took both kids and me about 5 minutes to figure out what to do.

Then after some bar charts which were quite difficult, we then had count the items again.Dd entered the answer but got confused because it told her off as she hadn’t ‘made a selection’ and she didn’t understand the word ‘indicate’ either. She also spent a while trying to put a number onto a number line thinking from previous questions that the pointer wouldn’t be enough, and got more frustrated. The graphic at the end made no sense and she was unimpressed.

So a big disappointment as neither child would be able to use it without my hovering. Perhaps it would have been clearer with sound, but I doubt it. I’d also question why it bothered asking about SEN (and the subcategories for ASD are all ones not given in the UK – I picked PDD as the closest), given that the key things needed by autistic kids are clear instructions and consistency, and not starting too hard.

jackparlabane · 22/05/2019 17:21

Or in the kids' own words:
DD7: “I think it needs more progress because it broke down every minute.”

DS10: "HARD GAME MECHANICS, CREEPY MONSTERS AND SKETCHY HANDS ARE NOT WHAT YOU WANT IN A GOOD LEARNING GAME! IF THERE IS SUCH THING AS A GOOD

LEARNING GAME!! ALSO YOU SHOULD ADD A BETTER RANGE OF AVATARRRRRRRRRRS OR LET THE PLAYER CUSTOMISE THEM!!! ADDING ON TO THE CREEPY MONSTER, I THOUGHT YOU WANTED PEOPLE TO ENJOY THIS GAME, NOT SMASH THE THING IN TERROR!!!! ADD SOME THINGS PEOPLE LIKE WHY DON’T YOU! A DOG COULD MAKE A BETTER GAME THAN YOU!! (that’s a bigger insult than you think considering dogs are COMPLETELY BRAINLESS!) SO IN SUMMARY CHANGE THE GAME COMPLETELY OR TRASH IT!!!! SIGNED VERY AGITATED [name]"

Spotsbeforemyeyes · 22/05/2019 21:42

We’re on day 4 tomorrow. Dd is still looking forward to it every day and so far she is still being assessed.

Some of the questions were confusing so although it says don’t help I needed to explain to her what to do. We figured out the abacus thing after getting the answer wrong, 😂.

My Dd customised her avatar, she likes the games but proclaimed one of them boringthis evening. The questions were frustrating her I think.

We are enjoying it though and I’m liking the feebback.

Paddingtonthebear · 22/05/2019 21:43

How do you know if you are out of the assessment stage?

Belmo · 22/05/2019 21:54

Mine still says subscribed til the 6th of June, have I done it wrong?
Dd is loving it so far. She’s desperate to get a pet!

Scoleah · 23/05/2019 07:47

I agree that the avatars do look They are aimed at a younger audience, and my daughter said the voice was annoying,
But with that out of the way, my Daughter that has 0 confidence in Maths has been thriving!
She loves that I get to see how good she's done on the email!
I'm super chuffed with this, even though I do have to give her a bit of a Nudge to do it everyday!
Fab so far! Grin

Crissylou84 · 23/05/2019 08:28

So far my daughter has struggled to stay engaged with the app. She said the questions are to hard, or she doesn’t understand what is being asked. She is 11 and has struggled with maths in the past, she isn’t overly impressed so far and it’s becoming harder to get her to use the app and complete the tasks.

MiliOli · 23/05/2019 09:07

Day 2

My 8 year old is still being assessed it said another day of assessment tomorrow but she is really getting in to the games and medals Smile she loves maths and is really enjoying getting her brain exercising. App was running smoothly today with no problem.

My 5 year old need someone convincing to get started but once she was going she enjoyed it, especially when stars pop up it really motivated her. She is not into the games, tried 2 but just the once. I think 15min is her maths limit.

I'm loving the email with the progress, starting to get impressed with the app StarStarStarStar

bigKiteFlying · 23/05/2019 09:29

How do you know if you are out of the assessment stage?

Says in the e-mail at bottom whether the next day is a level assesment and when it's not what the topic area will be.

It was three level assesments for my children - then they got introduction/lesson in first topic session.

MimsyBorogroves · 24/05/2019 19:18

We've finished the assessment after 3 days of playing. DS age 7 loves it so far now we've worked out some of the odd set ups of questions. The voice still annoys me.

It's useful to see progress, but it would be nice if it would give some indication of where the students are against expected levels.

DS 11 has looked at it but isn't convinced to try it yet - he thinks the style is too babyish and doesn't understand a lot of the logic questions that younger DS is doing.

bigKiteFlying · 25/05/2019 10:12

Both DS and DD2 have had the problem of answer being 10 which they then couldn't input though (their answer showed 10 when marking question wrong )- hopefully pic has attached.

I think if they are using a random no generator they have the boundaries set wrong should be

UK MNer with at least one child aged 4-14? Sign up to test Smartick’s online after-school maths programme
GinUp · 25/05/2019 11:23

DD has done 9 days so far (I think!).

I think it would help if there were examples of how to answer questions as the format isn't always obvious.

DD is still getting a mixture of tutorial questions and what I think must be assessment questions. Her current topic is exponents but there are also questions asking her to identify simple 3D shapes or to say what colour an object is.

She's losing interest in the shop because it takes so long to earn enough stars to buy anything worthwhile. After 9 days in a row, her avatar's room only has a toy alien and a dog.

Lambethmum · 25/05/2019 18:11

Are the levels equal to British ones? When we look at the 'summary' section in the games area it shows the 8 year old is being assessed against grade 2-3, 7 year old grade 1-2, and the 5 year old preschool?

Lambethmum · 25/05/2019 18:19

update - changed language to GB, but 8 year old is still in year 3 according to smartick (although really in year 4) and 5 year old in nursery (but actually in reception). This might explain why they find things pretty easy?? 7 year old IS in year 2, and is year 1-2 on smartick.

MimsyBorogroves · 25/05/2019 20:02

How are you seeing which year they think you're in @Lambethmum? I can't find that anywhere and I'm intrigued 😂

We did our first lesson today. It was time, which is the one area of maths DS really struggles with. The explanation was incredibly convoluted and made time telling even more difficult than it actually is...

He's delighted though, he managed to buy a tortoise with his ticks.

mintfrog · 25/05/2019 21:14

We’ve had the app for a few days now but DD, although keen, is finding getting to 15 minutes a struggle; she’s only 4! I’m wondering if there is a way to adjust the session length required even though it doesn’t require it to be done in one sitting.

Today’s email said she’d solved 129 exercises and then:
Counting Objects to Determine Quantity
73 exercises attempted: 66 correct and 7 incorrect (90%).

...73 of the same exercise?!?!? No wonder she’s finding it hard going.

(It’s also telling me she’s in nursery, when she’s in reception.)

Marmablade · 25/05/2019 23:06

DD6 is really enjoying it and asking to do it after dinner every night (sometimes we literally do not have time).

The response time is slow if she needs it reading out which at just turned 6 seems unfair. Obviously I haven't been telling her I get little updates. She just calls it her maths game.

Some of the explanations make it no clearer what the task is. The email says not to help her but as a parent I believe in giving children the best possible chance to succeed by explaining the task in words she understands (number bonds to 10 for example)

At the moment I'd only subscribe if it was less than £10/month but £39/month is a big no. I could download an app for less than that. It's fun and I can imagine her really getting into it but we simply do not have that kind of spare money.

The voice is odd but I read someone else said you can change the accent so I'll give that a go. The explanations could be much clearer but are made less understandable by the accent.

On the plus side we've learnt the word rekenrek Grin

cannotmakemymindup · 26/05/2019 00:02

I am loving all these updates to see everyone's different perspectives.
Definitely check if you have the 'english' or American version when the voice is annoying!!
Dd loves it and we really try hard to not help. So as she is unable to read questions, we get it to play them. Then questions she doesn't understand, ask her which part she does understand then work from there as it doesn't matter if you make mistakes you can learn from them. Trial and error plus figuring out how to work things out when you are unsure.
She loves the village and other activities. Thinks the car park is great!
In short we love it.

Lambethmum · 26/05/2019 09:24

It's in the games section when they have done the tasks @MimsyBorogroves - you know where they can wander around the shop, house etc, there is a games bit right at the centre, click on that and then 'summary' is one of the tabs

GinUp · 26/05/2019 16:21

Today DD did a review of the areas she's been doing so far and got a diamond diploma. She liked that and I've had to print it out for her.

The games are still popular but it's getting more difficult now to move further up the percentages with the scores (SGI?).

Overall I'd say it's going well but I'm not sure I'd want to pay nearly £10 a week for it.

Welliesandpyjamas · 26/05/2019 19:38

Is this the feedback the feedback thread?

DD has started using it. So far our comments are:

  • delays loading can cause problems and incorrect question interpetation. Slightly better on the app than the website version though.
  • the US accent is annoying! Can we change it?!
  • can any teachers give thoughts on the maths vocabulary used - does it match what is being used in UK schools? I can’t remember which word/s made me wonder about this but will keep an ear open.
  • the postioning of the green answer button and the ‘I don’t know’ button makes it easy for young hands to accidentally nudge them and select them, throwing the assessment out.
  • the availability of friend requests makes me feel egdy