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NOW CLOSED: Could you and your family live off £85 a week? Take part in the Unum challenge and find out. There are 10 lots of £100 Amazon vouchers to be won.

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AnnMumsnet · 04/07/2012 11:44

Unum, the Income Protection providers, are looking for 50 Mumsnetters and their families to take part in the Unum Challenge. You may remember we recently conducted a survey for Unum with regards to managing your finances. The results to one question revealed that only 28% of Mumsnetters think their family would be able to live off £85 per week - so Unum now want to put this to the test! Last year they ran a project with a blogger and you can read how she got on here and here.

How would you cope if your salary (or your partners salary) was reduced to £85 a week? Why £85 a week? - because this is all that you'd be entitled to if you were unable to work through illness or injury and you were receiving Statutory Sick Pay (SSP). (Of course you may also be entitled to sick pay from your employer or via an income protection scheme).

The aim of the challenge is to show how families cope with living on this amount - the challenges faced and to explore what families see a priority expenditure and what can be dropped. Please note quotes from the challengers may be used on the Unum pages on Mumsnet.

For this challenge Unum are looking for families who have at lease one income earner in the household - and we are looking for those with a range of incomes, a range of family sizes and both those for whom this challenge sounds ok and those who think it's impossible.

If you are selected to take part then Unum say "we would like you and your family to see how you'd cope if one of the wages in your household was reduced to £85 for one week and to tell us about your experiences on a feedback thread. If you live in a household with just one wage, this represents a stiff challenge, but even in households with two wage earners it may well make you think more about what you're spending".

Challengers will need to give diary-style feedback on a thread of what they spent and on what - and how they managed to cut down on spending and what areas where impossible to cut down on. We'd like challengers to behave as normally as possible but to really think about what is being spent and what could be reduced/ removed from the weekly budget. You'd also need to consider other resources you may have access to including savings, benefits, loans and family support.

The challenge will start next Monday 9th July and last a week. Challengers will need to add feedback ideally three times a week across the week along with a final summary of their thoughts and a conclusion as to whether they passed the challenge or not. You don't have to reveal personal spending habits/ income on the thread if you don't want to - and you are welcome to name change.

Please only apply if you are around w/c 9 July to add feedback.

Research conducted by Unum shows 64% of UK private companies only offer their employers SSP if they are off work for longer than four consecutive days. This is the legal minimum they are required to offer by law, entitling employees to only £85.85 a week (in this current tax year), rather than their usual salary.

As a thank you for taking part, as well as hopefully saving some money, Unum can offer £100 of Amazon vouchers to 10 lucky challengers who add feedback as required. You will need to give feedback three times during the week plus a final round up of your thoughts.

So if you'd like to take part in the challenge, please sign up here. It's open to all UK Mumsnetters.

Thanks and good luck!
MNHQ

AnnMumsnet · 04/07/2012 12:42

Thanks for your comment LadySybildeChocolate. Unum say "We realise a lot of people already have to face this situation, but this would be a stiff challenge for a significant number of people who earn more than this amount. When we asked the question in our recent survey on Mumsnet, nearly 2/3 said they wouldn't be able to live on this amount, showing that for them it would be a struggle. The challenge is designed to highlight how important a regular monthly income is and to get Mumsnetters to think about putting plans in place should they be unable to earn a living through long-term illness or injury. In reality, someone on SSP is likely to only be off work for one or two weeks, we're asking folks to do this for a week just to get a snapshot of what their initial thoughts and actions are when faced with this challenge". HTH

AnnMumsnet · 04/07/2012 14:39

Thanks for the comments - Unum say "Basically the challenge is to think about how you'd copy if one salary in the household (your own or your partners, if you have a partner who does paid work) was reduced to £85, so any other benefits or credits would be included, but you would need to think about paying all the usual bills"

KatieBMumsnet · 04/07/2012 17:07

Thanks for your comment ItsAllGoingToBeFine. Unum say:

"While Unum attended the first meeting with the DWP to feed into the assessment criteria for incapacity benefit. The system design was managed by other organisations and Unum had no involvement or visibility of this. Also our campaign, which began in June last year, has only ever been about getting people to ask for Income Protection through work. We no longer sell individual policies, but we never promoted these directly to consumers. Most group Income Protection schemes are usually fully funded by the employer, so employees are not required to pay any premiums in these circumstances."

Also for those of you who wish to find out more, you can read answers to common questions on Income Protection here: ask.unum.co.uk/blog/questions/common-questions-about-income-protection/

AnnMumsnet · 05/07/2012 15:52

Hi all - thanks to everyone who has applied so far....we'll be closing this off tomorrow am so if you're interested in signing up to take part please do so by then.

Glitterknickaz - Unum have asked me to post the following in response to your comments about ATOS "Unum UK and ATOS are two separate companies and have always been so. We currently have no relationship with ATOS Ltd, although did provide Income Protection to ATOS Ltd for ATOS's staff until September 2009"

Also - there is a link to a Q&A about the myths around Unum here:
ask.unum.co.uk/blog/questions/frequently-asked-questions/

Unum also say "We only sell group Income Protection policies, which are bought by employers to provide to cover for their employees as part of their employee benefits package. These are usually fully funded by the employer, so employees are not required to pay any premiums in these circumstances."

AnnMumsnet · 06/07/2012 08:04

Hi - we always prefer to post on behalf of a client rather than allowing them free reign on the thread which is why I have posted for Unum. They are reading all the comments.

The feedback from this won't be used to create stats.

thanks if you've applied.

AnnMumsnet · 06/07/2012 16:45

Thanks to everyone who signed up - I will send you the info over a bit later on today or tomorrow. Owl - I've taken you off the list.

Thanks for all the comments about this challenge - certainly food for thought.

Unum's challenge is designed to get folks thinking about income protection generally - by thinking about expenditure in their family and also about what plans they have in place should the unexpected happen. It's not trying to generate stats or to replicate exactly what it would actually be like - more to capture reactions across a short space of time (to get a snapshot). That said, we at MNHQ, do acknowledge that the challenge could be seen as perhaps insensitive to and by some.

We know money, benefits and the like can be tricky - and touchy - issues on MN and that folks' circumstances vary wildly within our community. However, we also recognise that companies such as Unum can provide a product that may help families in certain circumstances. We know it's not for everybody though and we wouldn't dream of suggesting that it is - something that holds true for all products we run product tests and surveys on or carry ads for.

Best, MNHQ

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