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Live webchat with Harriet Harman MP on Tues Nov 25th 1-2pm

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HelenMumsnet · 21/11/2008 18:23

We're pleased to announce that, as part of our ongoing Home Front debate, we've invited Harriet Harman MP to drop by MNHQ for a live webchat on Tuesday November 25th at 1pm.

As well as being Deputy Leader of the Labour Party and Leader of the House of Commons, Harriet is Secretary of State for Equalities and Minister for Women.

Please join us to put your questions to Harriet on anything from the Government's plans for flexible working to Gordon's performance in the present economic crisis.

And, as usual, you're welcome to post any questions here in advance if you can't make it on the day.

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policywonk · 25/11/2008 22:38

She has also proposed/enacted legislation on the following:

criminalising men who have sex with women who have been trafficked or are otherwise controlled for another's gain
a requirement for all public sector bodies to publish their gender pay gaps
scrap the defence of 'provocation' when men have killed their wives
given local authorities greater powers to regulate lap-dancing clubs
allow employers to give preferential treatment to women and ethnic minority candidates
outlaw age discrimination in the provision of goods and services
rights for mothers to breastfeed their babies in public

Swedes · 25/11/2008 23:09

I'm not certain the proposals currently on the way through Parliament entirely close off the defence of provocation. Provocation is replaced with "words or conduct which leave a defendant feeling seriously wronged". I can't see how infidelity or nagging or other provocation might be necesarily excluded. We don't have a European purposive approach to the interpretation of legislation so we'll have to wait and see how this new legislation is interpreted in the courts.

Quattrocento · 25/11/2008 23:47

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Anna8888 · 26/11/2008 09:18

Lack of brains is surely a pre-requisite for successful female socialists?

Ségolène Royal / Martine Aubry anyone?

Poohbah · 26/11/2008 11:37

Swedes, that's interesting, in summary she seems to care less about our soldiers or the Iraqi's dying horrifically in Iraq than she does about fluffy cute little foxes, the word hypocrite comes to mind!!!

artichokes · 26/11/2008 11:45

All her voting record shows is that she followed the Party whip. Had she not she would not now be a Minister.

As someone said below - you have to pick your fights as a Minister. If you are not willing to support the Party on most issues then you very quickly loose your job and the chances to change anything at all.

dittany · 26/11/2008 13:28

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Swedes · 26/11/2008 13:44

Dittany - It sounds as though you like HH almost as much as you like Sarah Palin.

Quattrobeautiful · 26/11/2008 19:06

I am gutted to have had a message deleted by Mumsnet. All I did was agree with what just about every serious paper has said about HH many times over.

It can't be the defamation risk - it's self-evidently true. Must be that MN think it's abusive?

Swedes · 26/11/2008 21:55

Quattro - [grin

When i was younger I was told not to appear too bright or i would never get a husband because men would be intimidated by my brain! then as soon as i became an MP they said i was thick! Best to be thick skinned.... I did think even political life might be easier if you are a blonde with big tits.

Poohbah · 27/11/2008 08:06

I reserve the same level of criticism for all I encounter who say one thing then do the other for their own personal gain.

Leftist beliefs surely incongruent with sending our dear sons and daughters into battle to be killed?

Schooling???? everyone should go to state school unless it's my own child whereupon I reserve the right to send them to a jolly good grammar because I wouldn't want them mixing with riff raff you know.

Feminist my arse.

policywonk · 27/11/2008 09:28

Of course she's a feminist! How can you look at that list of legislative proposals and come to any other conclusion? You disagree with her about Iraq and about her schooling choices - fair enough. Doesn't mean she's not a feminist.

Swedes · 27/11/2008 11:20

There's no doubt she's a feminist. And she has done some good things. But that's as it should be and it it doesn't mean she shouldn't be quizzed about the bits of her politics that are less palatable.

policywonk · 27/11/2008 18:27

Oh yes, that's fair enough. HH does seem to be one of those politicians who draws a slightly disproportionate amount of ire, though. People seem to absolutely loathe her (more so than other senior Labour figures) and I've never really understood why - is it just that she's a middle-class female? As dittany says, plenty of senior Labour politicians backed the Iraq war.

dittany · 27/11/2008 18:33

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LittleBella · 27/11/2008 23:16

She has sold out women. She sold out single mothers when she was first a minister and her political masters told her that she had to stand by and let lone parents and their children suffer appalling hardship for a couple of years until they made it all OK again by bringing in tax credits.

Well it wasn't OK. For many of the families who saw that benefit cut, it was a horrible couple of years. And she stood by that policy, she was the minster who enacted it and she didn't resign in protest. I can't see that as anything other than selling out women and children tbh. Maybe I'm just an old harridan but for me her voting record has never erased that particularly shameful episode.

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