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MNHQ here: webchat with Harriet Harman MP on Monday 20 February at 1pm

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BojanaMumsnet · 17/02/2017 15:19

Hello,

We’re pleased to announce a webchat with Harriet Harman MP on Monday 20 February at 1pm.

Harriet was twice Acting Deputy Leader of the Labour Party and she has spent 28 years on the Front Bench. She was elected as MP for Peckham in 1982 and has campaigned for women’s rights, including introducing the National Childcare Strategy, all women shortlists, the Equality Act and changing the law on domestic violence. She was at the forefront of Labour's efforts to reach women voters before the 2015 general election, leading to the infamous 'Pink Bus' being pranged in the MNHQ car park as Yvette Cooper left Mumsnet Towers.

Harriet’s recently published autobiography, A Woman’s Work, included her account of being sexually harassed by at least three men during her career, which hit the headlines (example here and here).

Please do join us on the day - Monday 20 Feb, at 1pm - or if you can’t make it, post a question in advance on this thread.

Please remember our webchat guidelines: one question each, with a follow-up to the webchat guest's response if appropriate; please don't keep posting 'what about me/please answer my question'; and please be civil/polite.

Thanks
MNHQ

MNHQ here: webchat with Harriet Harman MP on Monday 20 February at 1pm
MNHQ here: webchat with Harriet Harman MP on Monday 20 February at 1pm
HarrietHarmanMP · 20/02/2017 14:01

@TalkingintheDark

Hi Harriet,

I heard you on the radio recently telling a story about when, as Robin Cook's deputy, you missed an important parliamentary occasion as you'd promised to take your son to the cinema. You said that, after being initially furious with you, when you insisted you were just "not available" Cook made the leap to presuming you were having an affair, and switched instantly from fury to "conspiratorial glee". And yet had he known you were prioritising your child, and not a lover, he would still have been furious, and probably would have sacked you.

It's a brilliant, shocking story.

On a tangent from that: I am frequently shocked about how women's - and children's - rights seem to be thrown under the bus by the Labour Party whenever there is a conflict between those rights and the rights of a minority group. The way for example the grooming gangs in Rochdale, Rotherham, Oldham etc were allowed to keep operating for years after they were first identified because it was seen as "Islamophobic" to say that gangs of Muslim men were sexually abusing non-Muslim girls. This was with the collusion of Labour led councils: instead of being listened to, people were sent by those councils on racism awareness courses for saying that this was happening.

Even when the people speaking up are themselves part of that minority they are ignored - for example, when the Muslim Women's Network wrote to Corbyn about the way they are routinely blocked from standing for council election by sexist men in their communities, enabled by the local Labour Party apparatus - Jeremy did the fingers in ears thing and mouthed platitudes about the Labour Party being the party of equality etc, but completely failed to address their very real concerns.

I am a lifelong Labour voter and I take my hat off to women like you and Jess Phillips who have worked so hard to bring about change in women's lives, but I now find myself really struggling to support the Party.

I always used to see the Labour Party as the party for social justice, but I now see a huge problem with the liberal left - the problem of the "regressive left" as it's been called. I see reactionary, oppressive views being touted as "progressive" attitudes, nowhere more clearly than in the realm of women's rights. It seems the rights of any minority take precedence over the rights of women and children in the hierarchy of the left; and Robin Cook's total devaluing of your role as a mother seems to me to be part of that culture.

Which leads me (finally!!) to my question: do you agree that there is still a fundamental issue of sexism and misogyny in the Labour Party, and in liberal society in general, that needs challenging; and if so, what's the best way to go about it?

I think it's helpful to approach the points you raise by thinking about human rights. Every child has a right to grow up free from abuse, whatever their ethnicity. Everyone has the right to be free from racial or religious discrimination. Challenging discrimination is always the right thing to do. Sometimes, people cite a misplaced concern to avoid discrimination as a lazy way of avoiding and challenging the status quo.

I hope you'll carry on supporting the Labour party -- there is no other party that will fight against discrimination and for equality. I disagree with those in the party who seek to diminish one battle for rights by saying it's not important for another battle for rights. All inequality is bad, whether it's based on class, gender, race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, age or anything else. There should not be a hierarchy of inequality whereby challenging one sort of inequality is regarded as less virtuous than challenging another.

Experts' posts:
Somerville · 20/02/2017 14:03

I salute your bravery.

Thank you for speaking for us on so many issues for so long and now being one of the very few who will speak out on preserving our safe spaces.

EmpressOfTheSpartacusOceans · 20/02/2017 14:03

Did you intend to leave sex out of that list of inequalities, Harriet?

HarrietHarmanMP · 20/02/2017 14:03

Thanks for all your questions and points - long live Mumsnet!

Longer answers to these questions are in my book, A Woman's Work, and the discussion is taken forward in Jess's book, Everywoman. I think we are a "genre"!

Experts' posts:
DianaMemorialJam · 20/02/2017 14:03

Harriet (sorry it's a boring one) what is your favourite book?

Silentplikebath · 20/02/2017 14:04

Thank you.

Londonsburningahhhh · 20/02/2017 14:06

I look forward to reading it and being inspired. Thank you for answering my question.

BojanaMumsnet · 20/02/2017 14:19

TO ALL OUR ESTEEMED WEBCHAT READERS (THIS MEANS YOU)

Please take five minutes to answer a survey about your webchat experience this evening

Whether you’re a lurker, a regular or someone who’s wandered in off the wilder shores of t’internet - we want to know how Mumsnet webchats are working out for ya

There’s a lovely PRIZE of vouchers for the store of your choice for one lucky respondent

(We’ll be posting this link on lots of upcoming webchat threads as we want to get a wide range of views)

Thank you!
MNHQ

OP posts:
ArcheryAnnie · 20/02/2017 14:22

Thank you!

pepperpot99 · 20/02/2017 14:52

Why wasn't my question about the railways answered? it's wasn't exactly controversial? Sad

EmpressOfTheSpartacusOceans · 20/02/2017 14:55

It might have just been lack of time, pepperpot.

M0stlyBowlingHedgehog · 20/02/2017 14:55

Thank you for engaging with us and answering our questions honestly (and without the evasiveness that has characterised some webchats).

(Bit disappointed you didn't have a chance to get to mine but I was a bit late to the party. )

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 20/02/2017 14:57

Bojana Q5 The one about if you didn't post on this thread, why not?

You need an option for MNHQ asked that my question wasn't asked.

HelenDenver · 20/02/2017 15:01

pepperpot, you asked two questions - the first was about her standing for labour leadership I think. HH didn't answer you but another, similar question, so may have felt she had responded to you once.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 20/02/2017 16:06

Another voice saying thank you for being the only politician so far to take on board how very concerned many MN posters are about the erosion of women's rights by the doctrine of gender identity.

My opinion of you, always high, has soared. Brave of you to tackle what has become a political hot potato.

DameDeDoubtance · 20/02/2017 17:20

Thank you for answering the question and not just dismissing the concerns of many women. Thank you for saying that the rights of women and girls matter.

TabithaBethia · 20/02/2017 17:23

Well she was splendid bravo HH Smile

AskBasil · 21/02/2017 07:38

Are we allowed to discuss her responses to the trans issue questions that we were allowed to ask now, or do we have to do that on another thread (or are we not allowed to at all)?

HelenDenver · 21/02/2017 07:40

Basil

There's a thread on FWR (apologies if you've seen it, not had my coffee yet)

AskBasil · 21/02/2017 07:57

No, haven't seen it, will mosey on over, thanks Helen.

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