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Labour leadership hustings - Webchat with Jeremy Corbyn and Liz Kendall, Tuesday 28 July 2015 at 12pm

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BojanaMumsnet · 27/07/2015 11:37

Hello

Following on from Friday's webchat with Yvette Cooper, we’re pleased to announced the second of our Labour leadership hustings webchats with Jeremy Corbyn and Liz Kendall, tomorrow at 12 noon.

Jeremy Corbyn has been an MP for North Islington since 1983. In addition to his involvement with local organisations and community groups, he has a keen interest in international affairs and is the chair of the Stop the War coalition, which he helped establish in 2001. Jeremy’s candidacy for the Labour leadership has triggered a flurry of headlines and soundbites.

Liz Kendall was elected as Labour MP for Leicester West in 2010. She is the Shadow Minister for Care and Older People. Her focuses include improving public services and making society fairer, and she has previously been the Director of the Ambulance Service Network and of the Maternity Alliance charity. Liz has recently spoken out against sexism in politics, following a row about remarks made by a supporter of Andy Burnham’s candidacy.

Please join us for the webchat at 12pm tomorrow if you can, or post a question for Jeremy and Liz here in advance if you can’t.

Labour leadership voting is open until Thursday 10 September and the ballot results will be released on Saturday 12 September.

Thanks

MNHQ

Labour leadership hustings - Webchat with Jeremy Corbyn and Liz Kendall, Tuesday 28 July 2015 at 12pm
Labour leadership hustings - Webchat with Jeremy Corbyn and Liz Kendall, Tuesday 28 July 2015 at 12pm
bemybebe · 28/07/2015 13:07

Hang on, Jeremy, first of all, children can start at any point after they turn 4, it is already there in law including starting "mid-year".

But with your "mid-year entry" children are still forced to go before Compulsory School Age if they want to have any time in Reception. What I was asking would you support families who want their summer born children, who want to start school ON TIME to go into reception instead of being pushed by their LAs into year 1 thus skipping the whole year of education...

badooby · 28/07/2015 13:08

Thanks Liz and jeremy, was really interesting. I might join up to cast my vote yet...

Bubblesinthesummer · 28/07/2015 13:24

I have always voted Labour and recently become a member because Jeremy is speaking what I believe the core values of the Labour party should be. I feel very insulted by members of the party and the mainstream media, we have been labeled morons, insane, delusional and the rest. Could Jeremy and Liz please stand up for us the voter and ask that our intelligence not be insulted over and over again

The name calling on all sides is awful. 'Tory lite' and selfish and having no morals if you aren not a Jeremy supporter are equally unhelpful and damaging.

IceBeing · 28/07/2015 13:26

I am not sure 'tory' is quite as insulting as 'morons, insane, delusional'

what with 25% of the country happy, and maybe even proud to own the label 'tory' and almost no one happy to claim the others...

IceBeing · 28/07/2015 13:27

Sad that my question on faith schools has remained entirely unanswered by all comers......I know I'm not the only one that cares in the real world - but maybe its politically untouchable...or just uninteresting.

ProvisionallyAnxious · 28/07/2015 13:44

I think that was a bloody good webchat! Both of them came across as really passionate.

Bit concerned that Liz Kendall's only response on the Scotland question was that she would "fight the SNP". Fair enough to fight them on the independence issue, but full stop? Jeremy Corbyn didn't answer it directly but his one answer r.e. Scotland suggested he was a bit more amenable to seeing them as allies, which I think is necessary in the current parliament, at least...

Akcipitrokulo · 28/07/2015 13:47

It is vital to protect children at risk, and no-one would want to leave a child where there is abuse - but what would you do to prevent the situation where a lack of resources means that a family does not receive the support from Social Services needed to stay together, and would you see cutting this support (and leading to more looked-after children) as a false economy?

depositdonut · 28/07/2015 13:47

IceBaby

I'm not a Tory. I'm labour. And even if I agreed with jeremy corben more than any of the others, I would compromise and elect a leader who would go down better with the general public.

Something the Tories got right with Cameron it would appear.

IceBeing · 28/07/2015 13:50

deposit the first key to name calling is to actually get the name right...

What evidence is there that Corbyn wouldn't go down well with the general public? I am general public (ie. not a labour member) and I would have voted for his policies in the last election. There are many many non-voters out there....maybe they are non-voters because there was no main stream left wing option in the last election.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 28/07/2015 13:55

I'm pretty sure that analysis showed that Labour lost, noit because they lost votes to Tory/Lib Dem, but because previous voters just didn't bother voting atr all.

depositdonut · 28/07/2015 13:55

Name calling? What you on about. Confused

OhSoNamechanged · 28/07/2015 14:04

Corbyn was a million times more responsive than Kendall, both in the sense that he answered many more questions and also had a lot more concrete stuff to say about what policies he would like to put in place.

web chats can be very disappointing in that they can be used just as opportunities to cherry pick questions to use as vehicles for their favourite sound bites. and I think Kendall did just that. She mentioned justice several times and also fulfilling potential. But nothing you can hang your hat on about how you get there. But I think Corbyn used the web chat as an opportunity to respond to these questions with clear answers about policies. (and where to get vests.)

Interesting that Corbyn gave the impression of someone both of being a veteran who is calling on decades of experience - and of someone who can type very fast! Not all blokes his age can. Kendall is the same age as me and should have no problems with a keyboard as we have both spent our whole working lives in environments with computers. Admittedly in the 90s when we would have started out, it was still the norm for fast-track, management material people to have people to type for them, and perhaps her typing skills are atrophied as a result of this, as opposed to me who was thrown into the typing / reception / admin pool. Poor Liz. What a pity she wasn't given the chance to fulfil her potential, as every person should be ;)

I liked how Corbyn sent mums netters to Oscar Wilde, or rather assumed half of us had already read it and would know what he is talking about. No patronising there. I suppose the innocence / ignorance of 2010 when mn really ambushed the politicos will never return.

Bubblesinthesummer · 28/07/2015 14:08

I am not sure 'tory' is quite as insulting as 'morons, insane, delusional'

Actually to some being called 'tory lite' is and so is being called selfish and having no morals.

Bubblesinthesummer · 28/07/2015 14:13

web chats can be very disappointing in that they can be used just as opportunities to cherry pick questions to use as vehicles for their favourite sound bites. and I think Kendall did just that.

To be fair they both did. There were at least 3 questions to Jeremy about CSA and not one was answered.

bobster151 · 28/07/2015 14:15

This was (as is typical with some media outlets) taken out of context. The guy said this wasn't a Britain worth defending if we were prepared to spend £100 billion on Trident but cut spending for the disabled etc. It's all about context Smile

IceBeing · 28/07/2015 14:15

bubbles that may be...but if you support tory polices, like privatisation, capping benefits, austerity etc. then why should you abhor the tory label?

If you think those polices are selfish and devoid of morals then why do you support them?

I don't understand labour supporters saying they want to move to the right and follow the tories. If that is where your political views lie then just vote tory.

I strongly believe the labour party has swung violently to the right over the last 15 or so years. Moving back to where the people who used to vote for the party STILL ARE would gain them far FAR more voters than chasing the dwindling in the middle people they may get back from the tories if they move even further to the right.

ProvisionallyAnxious · 28/07/2015 14:40

Isn't the "tory lite" label usually applied to policies, rather than individuals? I think it is insulting to call Liz Kendall a Tory when she obviously isn't one - but to say "her [or anyone else's] policies are Tory lite" is expressing a, I think valid, concern that the current opposition isn't really... opposing.

ProvisionallyAnxious · 28/07/2015 14:41

No patronising there. I suppose the innocence / ignorance of 2010 when mn really ambushed the politicos will never return.

I wasn't on Mumsnet back then - were there any particular webchats that spring to mind? Grin

BeckerLleytonnever · 28/07/2015 16:43

I know there were a lot of questions to get through but yet again a disabled persons (me) been ignored! Hmm.

Msmuesli · 28/07/2015 16:51

That would be a very odd thing to do (please don't J.C.) as he is way in the lead and the only one of the 4 that seems to have any ideas.

Fantasyland · 28/07/2015 17:49

Becker I'm a bit annoyed the issue of csa wasn't answered as well, but yet silly questions like what biscuit do you like get a reply Confused

stresshead99 · 28/07/2015 18:30

Thank you for answering Jeremy. I was watching the Wright Show the other day and they called him "Jeremy Phoawburn" I kind of see why, in an old sea dog kind of way. At least he is passionate! I am a single, full time working mum, raising a disabled child and living in a council house. I pay taxes, pay full rent and vote labour. I was an August born child and went to a very run down comprehensive school! I am, I suppose typical of a Labour voter but I do believe the opposition, should oppose! There was nothing in the budget to give me hope, or inspire me. Politics will get interesting with Jeremy in charge. Maybe inspire the young to vote. The working poor, (such as myself) are going to bear the brunt of these cuts. Could one solution to the pensions crisis not be to increase the birth rate, not decrease it? Not all children of the unemployed/working poor will grow up to be a drain on society. The majority of them may even contribute! We need children to pay our pensions. Will forcing people to reduce the birth rate not cause problems for future pensioners?

derxa · 29/07/2015 09:37

Yes the biscuit answer was ridiculous.

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