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I am an "autism expert". Ask me anything.

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AutismProf · 18/05/2023 21:18

Worked in autism assessment, diagnosis and intervention on the education side for 20+ years. Ask me anything.

However, please note that I cannot personally do anything about waiting lists for diagnosis, or the education system, and I won't be blamed for these!

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Manicpixidreamgirl · 18/05/2023 22:27

@ReddishBrown you’ve used the exact examples I was thinking of!

Climbles · 18/05/2023 22:30

How would you define Autism?
Do you think the ADOS is an adequate assessment of Autism?

PickAChew · 18/05/2023 22:33

@Bunny2607 have you explored the possibility of the agitated behaviour and subsequent vomiting being migraine related? Both of mine have suffered with this (both improved by dietary changes, when at their worst, about that age) and from what I've read, this sort of autonomic dysregulation can often be a feature of neuro divergence.

WaveyGodshawk · 18/05/2023 22:35

DuranNotSpandeau · 18/05/2023 21:35

Can you recommend any books that might help parents who themselves have autism, in parenting a child with autism?

Sometimes it's like we are deers locking horns and I can't always see what he needs from me because I have my own difficulties with managing or understanding a situation.

I'd be really interested in this too! My dc and I can laugh about our "miscommunication style" at times but it can be quite distressing for both of us also.

ReddishBrown · 18/05/2023 22:35

Manicpixidreamgirl · 18/05/2023 22:27

@ReddishBrown you’ve used the exact examples I was thinking of!

That’s interesting! I wouldn’t mind if she was autistic or not. But my goodness she is sensitive.

AutismProf · 18/05/2023 22:36

Starlightstarbright1 · 18/05/2023 22:07

Do you diagnose pda ? In our county it isn’t diagnosed but in the next county it is ? It seems like a postcode lottery .

My next question is do you think parents are given enough support with diagnosis . I was literally send a letter saying my D’s has Asd..

nothing more

Most NHS funded pathways literally cannot "diagnose" PDA as it is not a recognised condition described in the diagnostic manuals we have to use.

A complication is that demand avoidance is a relatively common coping style in autism, where the person is in a setting that isn't meeting their needs, because as you know demand avoidance is just an avoidant ("flee" or "freeze") anxiety based response to expectations. The demand avoidance dissipates when the person feels safer in a more conducive and supportive environment. "True" fully intractible, actively avoidant PDA is really quite rare. There is a paper to this effect on the PDA website published late last year.

In our area we talk about autism with a demand avoidant presentation as we can't "diagnose" PDA per se.

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Bubbless31 · 18/05/2023 22:39

My ds is ASD and adhd and my dd at aged 10 is now presenting as quite significantly autistic, but finding resources to help us help her is hard- any links to websites or books aimed specifically at girls please? We are struggling to cope.

Cheesybiscuitsmineallmine · 18/05/2023 22:40

Thank you for this thread. I was wondering about what you said earlier about parents being asked about traits in childhood if the parents are still around. If someone is thinking about getting a diagnosis as an adult and their parents are no longer around, would that affect things? Do you know what kind of things they ask about childhood/childhood traits?

fantasmasgoria1 · 18/05/2023 22:40

I have a serious mental illness and have support for this. However two mental health professionals feel that it's highly likely I have autism. I definitely meet the criteria but is it really worth getting the official diagnosis? Would it really be beneficial?

Worriedmotheroftwo · 18/05/2023 22:40

Hey, thanks for starting this thread. I have a 4 year old in nursery and I'm pretty sure he's got autism. Nursery weren't that fussed and advised not seeking a diagnosis at this stage although said he MIGHT be neurodiverse. Would you recommend getting the ball rolling on a diagnosis or waiting to see how he develops when he starts school? He's getting on pretty well, although he perhaps struggles to regulate his emotions a little more than some other kids his age (and he stims lots).

I suspect I may have autism myself, if that makes any difference, though I am definitely (what used to be called) high-functioning.

alcquestion · 18/05/2023 22:41

How best to get assessment for a 4.5 year old please? South east.

AutismProf · 18/05/2023 22:43

Hey everyone, I am off to bed shortly and working tomorrow, so I will keep working through as best I can but do please bear with me. I wasn't expecting quite such a response!

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StepAwayFromGoogling · 18/05/2023 22:46

slithytoveisascientist · 18/05/2023 21:52

My daughters school will not support an autism assessment as she doesn't present typically at school. However I believe for many reasons that she is masking. Autism is also in the family.
Is there anything I can do or must I wait for my daughter to break entirely? She is 8.5.

My daughter's school don't think she displays any signs of autism but we're pursing a private diagnosis, is that a possibility?

Garethkeenansstapler · 18/05/2023 22:47

Which behaviours are not a sign of autism?

AutismProf · 18/05/2023 22:51

MissisBoote · 18/05/2023 21:29

My daughter was diagnosed last year at the age of 17. We always thought it was a possibility but hadn't followed it up until she developed sudden onset of tics during covid and then we joined the dots about her high levels of anxiety and how challenging she found the school environment - she was much happier learning at home in lockdown.

What is the best support we can give her as she goes off into adulthood? One of my key concerns is that a high percentage of autistic women have experienced sexual assault as a result of not knowing how to read intentions/social situations etc. I don't want her to become another statistic.

Also how can we help her regulate her emotions. She is permanently in fight or flight mode and jumps at everything. Could an occupational therapy offer support with this? I've read about it being useful for younger children but didn't know about older teens.

It's really important to look at the government's preparation for adulthood materials for older autistic youngsters. This is because many otherwise academically able autistic people struggle with aspects of living and independence skills.

The best thing I have seen that helps youngsters identify any gaps in their life skills and provides support to try to develop any missing skills, is a free downloadable pack, here:

https://irp-cdn.multiscreensite.com/28303aa1/files/uploaded/Post%2014%20personal%20development%20programme%20final%20%281%29.pdf

OT: quite possibly, but you'd be looking at private at her age.

https://irp-cdn.multiscreensite.com/28303aa1/files/uploaded/Post%2014%20personal%20development%20programme%20final%20(1).pdf

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Colinorpercy · 18/05/2023 22:51

Our DD has recently been referred for assessment as is now presenting various traits: sensory issues mainly with clothes/shoes, short temper which results in saying really hurtful things to us, sometimes trying to hurt us physically. The main problem is we have no clue how to deal with it and are probably making situations worse due to us losing patience. But at the same time, we feel like we can’t just let unacceptable behaviour go. I am expecting the referral to take some time (possibly years) so if you have any advice on any books/materials/support we can access to help us manage it in the meantime I’d be most grateful.

hotelmotelpremierinn · 18/05/2023 22:52

What would you say to an adult who doesn't "believe" in autism, "labelling" people or treating them as "special".

(Not me btw!)

Kingdedede · 18/05/2023 22:54

AutismProf · 18/05/2023 22:27

I read the first one and had to step away from them, to be honest.
They may have changed in the intervening few years I suppose.
If they haven't changed, all i can say is that whilst I genuinely understand people's needs to vent, I sincerely hope that my children find future life partners who read up more on autism (if they are NT) and have more empathy.

It’s interesting that you feel the onus is on the ‘NT’ person. What resources are there? As a mother preteen autistic boy I really hope there is a lot more understanding when he gets to adulthood. He is the only diagnosed autistic person in my/his father’s family but I can see the traits in many. Personally, and I know how bad this sounds, I would never knowingly get into another relationship with another Autistic man, and yes there is also the possibility that I am Autistic myself.

AutismProf · 18/05/2023 22:55

hellosunshine8 · 18/05/2023 21:32

My STBXH has autism and despite saying everything was fine has cheated on me multiple times over the years, which was initially what prompted referral for a diagnosis. He doesn't seem to know why he's done it. Any insight from your perspective as to why?

And also, what sort of support is available for people like him who had an adult diagnosis and just seem a bit lost and unable to cope with life? Especially now I won't be supporting him.

Many autistic people are extremely loyal to family and friends, so I wouldn't say serial cheating is a very typical behaviour.

My guess would be that it relates to executive functioning issues around impulsivity, seeing consequences, that kind of thing - but the sort of manifestation of that you are talking about seems more ADHD really - an intention deficit, rather than a core social communication issue.

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Nothingisblackandwhite · 18/05/2023 23:04

Why do you think you are an expert when you only ever had a single perspective ? Are you a parent , sibling or even an aunt to anyone with autism ? If not then all you have is one sided view that will be undoubtedly biased

AutismProf · 18/05/2023 23:06

goodenoughmum88 · 18/05/2023 21:32

What are the most important things to include on an EHCP ref that’s being made while we wait for assessment?

How is it best to explain to my 10 year old son that we think he is on the spectrum, school does now after much intervention, and the extra support is so he doesn’t have to mask anymore (he’s already having private play therapy) ? He talks about not wanting to be alive sometimes, but so far hasn’t self harmed.

EHCP referral - why you think he needs a statutory assessment, as in, what are his SEN and why are they beyond the means of school to manage? Ideally evidence of assess-plan-do-review from school, even more ideally showing that they have coordinated support and called in external expertise to hone their interventions.

With my son I bought a book about Asperger syndrome (as it was then), read it with him, talked about the strengths and difficulties many people with Asperger's have, and how we wondered if it sounded a bit like him. He agreed it did, and so we said we were thinking of having assessments done to see if he was this rare type of person.
The diagnosis, when it came, was a huge relief to him. We always presented his autism as neither a positive (hate the "superpower" stuff) nor a negative, just a fact of the way he is.

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AutismProf · 18/05/2023 23:08

Nothingisblackandwhite · 18/05/2023 23:04

Why do you think you are an expert when you only ever had a single perspective ? Are you a parent , sibling or even an aunt to anyone with autism ? If not then all you have is one sided view that will be undoubtedly biased

Did you read the thread? I assume not?

I am a child of an autistic person, a neice of multiple autistic persons, a sibling of an autistic person, a parent to two autistic persons.

Have to confess I am not an aunt of an autistic person.

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LotsOfBalloons · 18/05/2023 23:14

I've been told my child has to show significant deficit in multiple contexts (ie at school) and impairment in school for a referral (referred by school in our area.)

Thing is as a girl she doesn't show her anxiety at school.... the rule following black/white behaviour/friendship issues/se sory issues/not liking change is all there but she's high achieving and compliant so it's not considered a problem to them.

Presumably this is happening to a lot of girls? What do you suggest?!

Thanks so much.i tried to start a thread earlier and it hasn't taken off and you're just who I need!

Thighdentitycrisis · 18/05/2023 23:14

My son was diagnosed with Asperger’s aged 12. Now in his late twenties. 2 questions

  1. Is it common for people with Asperger’s to deny or “grow out of “ their neurodivergence ? Son says he very consciously worked on not being ‘weird’ and fitting in. From 18 he hasn’t thought of or referred to himself as having Asperger’s.
  2. as Asperger’s is no longer diagnosed, does his diagnosis still stand ? Does he now have ASD
thanks
SquirrelSoShiny · 18/05/2023 23:17

Kingdedede · 18/05/2023 22:54

It’s interesting that you feel the onus is on the ‘NT’ person. What resources are there? As a mother preteen autistic boy I really hope there is a lot more understanding when he gets to adulthood. He is the only diagnosed autistic person in my/his father’s family but I can see the traits in many. Personally, and I know how bad this sounds, I would never knowingly get into another relationship with another Autistic man, and yes there is also the possibility that I am Autistic myself.

Yes I found that interesting too. Because it sounds a bit of a catch 22. We can't possibly ask the autistic partner to 'mask' because it's apparently so hideously stressful for them so the non-autistic partner has to suck it up and essentially ignore their own needs. Never mind the hideous stress for them! That sounds less of a life partner role and more of a sacrificial lamb position.

Serious question: we all have to mask in the world to some degree. It's part of what allows us to live and be accepted in society. The alternative is rejection and isolation. Why is the non-autistic partner the only one expected to 'mask' or show empathy? That sounds more like parenting than partnership. Frankly, it doesn't sound very appealing.

So is there a place for a modern version of ABA or at least frustration tolerance expansion? And if not is there an acceptance that rejection is almost a given?