To wonder how my dd got to 14 thinking this was the real phrase?

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We've all be ill on and off since they went back to school.
One morning Dd was telling me that she had a 'bummed up nose' I asked her to repeat it and she said the same.
I tried to clarify what she was saying and told her it was actually 'bunged up nose'. She laughed and thought I was joking!
She's decided she's going to carry on saying it the way she does
Please tell me it's not just us.

I didn't discover that misled wasn't pronounced as MYZELD until I was about 18. I kept seeing it in my mum's Catherine Cooksons and had no idea what it meant!

My DP says "it's a doggy dog world"...

Sorry, SALTs, am v old and I've not lived in the UK for 30 years, bit rusty on the current acronyms TEFL and CELTA are the most recent things I understand!

@Jaichangecentfoisdenom there's always the option to come back and retrain as a Scottish as a Language Teacher though!

I did a linguistics unit as part of my MFL degree. Not highly relevant to this thread as it was historical linguistics on the transition from Late Latin to Old Early French , but it was very interesting. I'd frequent a linguistics board, but would probably be a bit out of my depth!

I am sitting here muttering for four then pork stork I can’t find a difference between pork and stork and fork but maybe it’s my kiwi accent (world’s sexiest accent ) - I am ignoring work obviously.

lazylinguist

Thank you! I was suddenly really embarrassed I had been saying it wrong this whole time!! Hehe

Surely the issue isn't that we pronounce things differently, most people accept that. It was that @Bluntness stated that her husband was wrong because he thought they rhyme, whereas most of us also say they rhyme in our accents.

Somebody mentioned 'chimley' being dialect. It is, as is the London "chimbley" that my father occasionally used (born 1918, I guess his parents used this). I like it, it should be used more often :)

I'm Irish and Pork and stork rhyme for me. I'm sitting here saying them over and over

My mother says Veshtables for vegetables. Drives me crazy.

I remember seeing the word taicoon in one of the Arthur Ransome books, when I was a child (Missee Lee), and for some reason I didn’t read it correctly - my brain saw the word as toonican. I’m just glad I never actually said the word out loud. I didn’t realise I was wrong for years.

lazylinguist - I had to do linguistics of the same kind as you, as part of my degree, in French. I remember the Prof well, lovely man, dead now. I think he must have cheated somehow to make me pass the year, as I was hopeless. (Give me literature any day. Well, not today, I've atrophied.)

@SpirallingThroughAnotherDay my mil pronounces donkey to rhyme with monkey. Cracks me up every time🤣

Pork, fork and stork all rhyme where I'm from

I can imagine some other accents/dialects might pronounce it Pew-ork or similar, but it is technically meant to rhyme with Stork, and fork. I don't think not rhyming Pork and Fork is "wrong" at all (pronunciations vary from region to region for many words) but to say someone else is wrong for rhyming them is wrong. IYSWIM.

I wonder if we were at the same place, Jaichange... My course was mostly literature, but I liked translation best tbh. I enjoyed the linguistics bit, but it felt like I would have needed to learn the whole 'language of linguistics' in order to do it properly. Which I didn't!

Pork and stork rhyme in my accent (yorkshire)

But im saying them to myself in a (terrible attempt) irish accent.

To me pork is said with an or in it

And stork a bit like walk?

Which all rhyme in my accent but wouldn't in certain irish accents i think?

but it is technically meant to rhyme with Stork, and fork.

Not quite sure what you mean by this. Do you mean they are meant to sound the same because they are spelled the same, with an 'or'? Because that really doesn't work with English. Otherwise bought, cough, through, though, rough and thorough would all have the same sound in them. Not to mention book and pool, pour and sour etc.

YY to those who posted about Knights in White Satin and those common wombles earlier on the thread. I was well into adulthood before I found out about those 2 (as a non-Londoner I'd never heard of Wimbledon Common either).

Lack of London knowledge also caused a lot of embarrassment when I was a student. I told friends that I had an interview for a summer job in Chiswick and wondered why they all burst out laughing. How was I supposed to know that the "w" was silent?

Pinacola Ah, the younger reader let loose on the Catherine Cooksons and similar

My friend and I struggled with the name "Alicia" in the Mallory Towers books. We'd never heard such a name before and had no clue how to pronounce it. My friend insisted it was "Aleck-a". I was sure it was Ah-liss-ee-ah. (still do). Imagine my surprise when I discovered as an adult it could be pronounced as Ah-leee-sha". What what what?!

I know someone who says 'lickle' instead of little and it makes me want to do physical harm to her . I obviously won't but it reallyreally bugs me

It was only when I was early 20's and I heard someone say it for the first time that I realised 'hyperbole' was 'hi-per-bal-ee' rather than 'hyper-bowl'

Lazy I mean by the pronunciation that is used in general rather than specific to regions or determined by spelling. My mother says "Lewk" for "look" and "Bewk" for "book" as that's her local dialect. It's not a general way of pronouncing those words though. Far more people than not would say "look" with the "uh" sound rather than the "oo" sound. However when you think about it, saying "Look" as "Lewk" actually makes more sense, in terms of how it's spelt

Not that @Bluntness100 will know this but we've disagreed a lot over the years. I teach English to foreign kids and I think she's 💯 right on this.

To @ginginchinchin and the pp who wrote the below I loved your kids understanding of the songs
Oh, and he also thought that the song Live and Let Die was Little Men Die.

My dad used to think little orphan Annie was called little awful nanny when he was young.

I’ve an Irish accent - quite a neutral one - and pork, stork and fork all rhyme to me.