Have you ever encountered anyone this cheeky?

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Inspired roughly by a couple of threads recently...
I used to have a friend (used to being the operative) who would come round to my house to smoke. Her reason being that she didn't want her house to smell like smoke and she didn't like smoking in the street as she thought it looked 'common' (her words)

The punchline being that I didn't smoke
That friendship ended when I saw the light and realised that she was using me! She was happy enough to make my house stink and I was too polite (at the time) to ask her not to as I thought I was being a welcoming host.

Has anyone encountered anyone with more brass neck than that?

MrsRaj, we use sweet potato in the shepherds pie mash too. 'Tis amazing! :)

Some of these are amazingly cheeky, but I think the Mexican holiday home is still the winner.

A long time ago, just after we were married, we wanted to go on a skiing holiday. We didn't have much money to spare so wanted to do it as cheaply as possible. We decided to book a self drive holiday as it was much cheaper than flying. We had met a couple who had moved to the area, and as the wife had never seen snow (they were both from Africa) we invited them to come too. The husband had an extremely well paid job - this is relevant.

After checking the brochure and working out prices, they decided to come. We agreed that we would share the petrol costs, although DH and I would do all the driving.

We filled the car up with petrol and set off. At the next petrol stop, DH filled up and went in to pay. I had been asleep, but was just waking up to hear the couple arguing quietly in the back seat. She was saying that they should go in and pay as it was their turn, he said he had no intention of paying for any petrol. It was a bit awkward to say anything so I kept quiet, but decided that I would remind him next time we filled up that we were sharing costs.

All went well until we got to the Swiss border. This is where it gets complicated. The other couple were from an African country, but the husband had Irish grandparents so he had a dual passport. The wife only had an African passport and had to pay a small amount beforehand to get a visa to travel into Switzerland. The husband told us he didn't have to do this as he was travelling on his Irish passport instead of his African one, although he had brought both with him. What he didn't tell us was that his Irish passport had expired, so he was travelling on the African passport with no visa. We had huge problems at the border, there were guards there with guns, and we didn't know if we would be allowed into the country. Eventually they let us in, and we drove to the hotel.

All in all, we had a good week. The wife was lovely - the husband was annoying. I have never met anyone so mean in my life. There were little things all week that got on our nerves, but we tried to ignore it.

We were all being careful with money, so just had one drink each night with our meal, and gave our room number. DH had a beer every night, I had a diet coke every night, the wife had a glass of wine every night, and the husband had a glass of tap water every night. (He made a big fuss of ordering 'tap water' every night).

At the end of the week, we were given our drinks bill. Ours was for 7 beers, 6 diet cokes, and a glass of wine. They had obviously switched one of my cokes with one of the glasses of wine, but we thought that it didn't matter, because there wasn't much difference in price, so we just paid it thinking they would do the same. However we found out later when checking out that we had to pay for one glass of coke. He had been given their bill, for 6 wines and a coke, and had told them to put the coke back on our bill but not to put the wine back on his! When we questioned him about this, he actually told me that I had had a glass of wine on the first night, and must have forgotten about it. This was very unlikely, as I don't like wine, and I was not impressed with him at all.

There were lots of other small incidents throughout the holiday, just petty meanness, and by the end we were very glad to get home.

Sorry, that turned out a bit long!

Holly, to be fair to DH, he's very generous with gifts for me and is (now) very sensible with money, he's also started noticing that while he's usually the first to the bar, who doesn't then go back to get a round in.

He's not as generous as he was with others when it comes to money, although is very generous with time and effort, which I like. He's also better at picking who'll he'll help (for example, he'd go round and fix one of my friend's broken tap at 5am, but then he knows she's done free childcare for us and has been a bit of a rock to me when I had a miscarriage; I found him recommending a good plumber to someone else who was more of a 'taker' when they appealed for yet more help...).

My jaw has been firmly on the floor throughout the entire thread - unbelievable brassneckery!!!

Then I remembered a few classics of my own from recent months - (got it into my head to help a young (26 but looked 16) homeless guy and his dog who I found were sleeping round the back of my local supermarket in the middle of november.

Of course I realise this was entirely my choice and the following is therefore entirely self inflicted but it still makes my jaw drop on a daily basis :)

To cut a long story short both came to live with me while the weather was so bitter out with me thinking because he was so young and seemed 'normal' I might be able to help him back on his feet.

Well, I've never encountered entitlement like it before or since.

Among his complaints were:

I never bought any 'nice' snacky things for him to eat, the travel bed in the living room was far too uncomfortable, hurt his back and could he sleep in my bed instead

Thought it terribly unfair that I wouldn't act as full-time walker and caretaker to his dog.

Got very upset when I refused to hand him a medal for every small household task completed (I do EVERYTHING round here he'd go) errm, no Kevin you really don't :)

Got into a huff when informed that yes I would help him with an application for a passport but no I wouldn't be paying the fees needed,

When told during January that funds were very tight and he would have to contribute some of his benefit to buy groceries and food for the dog as I couldn't afford it all whined that he couldn't contribute as he had to buy new trainers and they HAD to be designer and cost at least £100

Moaned how unfair it was that he wasn't getting paid for his lunch breaks at work (got him a temp job in my office) generally acted very upset that no-one had yet made him CEO after a week and that he was being treated like a 'skivvy'

Offered me £15 for petrol to get to work and back and when I cheerily said 'thanks very much' whined how unfair it was that he was having to pay 'so much' money for petrol and I shouldn't be running such an expensive car. Claimed he'd been driving for years and knew I was trying to rip him off. When quizzed on this his extensive experience turned out to be in the area of joy riding cars only and got very pissy when I pointed out that stealing other peoples property and petrol was hardly the same.

In the end I couldn't take it anymore and told him to leave since living with me was making him so very unhappy it was probably for the best anyway.

Didn't expect undying gratitude but sheesh, a bit of consideration and the occasional thank you wouldn't have gone amiss.

On the other hand, I am now firmly cured of my 'rescue the waifs and strays of this world' attitude and much more protective of my own interests (after decades of letting myself be taken advantage of so he's done me a massive favour really :)

My colleague's father came home from a trip abroad to find a man squatting in his flat (this was in the 70s BTW). Being terribly British he offered him some tea; the squatter was very apologetic and explained he thought the owner would be gone for longer . They got on famously and ended up flat sharing for quite done time afterwards.

Cheeky yes. But with a happy ending.

Nowhere near as good as these, but...

We're friends with a lovely couple, but he is a bit of a cheapskate. We used to go out for a meal with them at least once a week, and when the bill came they never wanted to split it (they are vegetarian so their meals were often £1 or so cheaper, fair enough) so DH and I would work out our share roughly, add a bit for a tip and put cash on top of the bill. Friends would then take the bill and our cash to the bar to pay theirs on card. Took us over a year to work out that they were pocketing our cash, paying the whole bill on card and leaving no tip as they "didn't do tips", thereby pocketing the tip we'd left, every week! Now we're wise to it we pay by card too then "miraculously" find a fiver for a tip

My old flatmates at uni were fairly cheeky too. I moved in 1 day before them so on the day they moved in I said to help themselves to my milk/bread/butter until they could get to the supermarket. Thought my food seemed to disappear awfully quickly but thought nothing of it until I turned up after lectures one lunchtime to find (very rich) flatmate eating the last of my food from the fridge leaving me with nothing for lunch! But apparently this was fine as I'd said she could

Weddings are good for cheeky family coming out of the woodwork. I particularly enjoyed a cousin I hadn't seen for 5 years contacting me on facebook "just to say hi" when she heard my wedding invites had gone out and not included her, then guilt tripping her mum (who we had invited) into not going as she couldn't possibly go without her... This cousin was 28 at the time.

I have one from DH too. When his grandad died DH inherited a load of tools from his shed (he is exactly like his grandad, loves making things and being useful.) DH's aunt decided that her friend, who has never met my DH nor his grandad, would like the tools DH had been left, and took them and gave them to her friend without asking. DH and family are a little in awe of his aunt and DH is a pushover so nothing was said!

'So although advice that we should stand up for ourselves is useful, I think I'm a step behind that. I need to work out how to even recognise the times when you need to stand up for yourself. Does anybody else get that?'

Arthur, it is very simple and takes seconds. Consider what is fair, with regard to money, time, property, etc. Mugs are nice people, pisstakers know this and prey upon it. If you think, 'Would I do this?' and the answer is 'no' because it's cheeky and mean, then you are in the clutches of a pisstaker.

The other strategy is to ask yourself, 'Would I let a stranger do this?' If the answer is 'no', then don't let anyone else do it, either.

The pizza situation: that would be when you sit down and you know you have no more money to feed yourself or your kids. And someone comes over and starts taking it. That is your cue to snatch the slice right out of the kid's mouth. 'Oi, manners here!' Look up at the mother and tell her to go buy her kids something to eat.

For us, too, it's simpler because we are truly skint. We cannot afford to subsidise someone's holiday, childcare, etc at the cost of ourselves because then we don't eat. We don't expect others to, either. So pisstakers get nowhere.

I find also that many British people are taken for mugs because they are taught to be non-confrontational. Try something like this on with a German, for example. LOL! 'No, that's not fair.' The poster with the crowd of them trying to get in her house, if you had said yes, but it will be £2/each for you to enter, they probably would have paid it.

expat - I think a lot of it is that sometimes the thing being asked wouldn't be unreasonable from other people/from people who pay back the favours - so DH going over to fix my friend's broken tap at 5am might have seen to be cheeky by some that she called me to ask DH (I would have called a plumber if DH was away and that happened and i couldn't work out how to fix it myself) but she'd already done a lot of free childcare for us, so we owed her a favour or two...

Being hospitable is normally paid back, it can sometimes be a while before you notice you're the only one to host etc.

One Sunday morning I woke up to find a 15 half-nekkid men in our garden shed. The local rugby team. Our landlord had given them permission to change in the shed. Hadn't told us - 5 young women sharing the house used to their privacy of a Sunday. Then they wanted to use the loo and expected cups of tea. Still, I guess we got to lech at them.

Am still shaking my head at the old lady collecting the gooseberries...

oh, I've thought of one I told to piss off!

an ex colleage of mine was buying a flat, in 2007, so was offered 125% mortgage to clear her credit card debts at the same time (this bit will be important later).

She was convinced she'd be able to move in in 4 weeks - we all told her buying a house was sometimes delayed etc, but she was determined the estate agent had said it was "possible" so she gave notice on her flat for this. Then obviously, there was a delay and it was going to be another 5-6 weeks after she was supposed to be out of her rented flat. She asked me, someone she barely knew if she could come stay at my flat (she'd met DH once for a brief chat at a works drinks). I said I thought it would be tricky for us, and had she asked her landlord if he could extend her tenancy for a few weeks if he'd not found a replacement tenant. Then she told me that she'd ordered new wardrobes on the back of the fact that she'd have this 6 weeks of paying no rent or mortgage staying with a friend. That sealed it for me as I thought 'how stupid'. (Plus I did think if she was asking me she must have run out of close people she could take the piss with).

in the end, another colleague ended up having her to stay as other colleague was going to New York for the same 6 weeks and had a dog, suggested cheeky colleague stayed in her one bedroomed flat and looked after her dog, saving her kennel fees. Except for other reasons, cheeky colleague's flat purchase was delayed even further, and she stayed with dog owning colleague for another 2 months after she got back - sleeping on the sofa, taking over the whole living room.

Cheeky colleague admitted to another mutual friend colleague that she'd deliberately not rushed it through and was stalling the sale as she was enjoying buying things for her new flat with the money she would have spent on either rent or mortgage and bills if she wasn't staying with dog owning colleague. Things that dog owning colleague had to have cluttering up her flat for those months - while dog owning colleague bought all the food they ate, and paid all the bills. And then in the end, dog owning colleague was so glad to be getting rid of her, dog owning colleague ended up paying for the van to shift all cheeky colleagues stuff. She had to do that, because cheeky colleague had treated clearing her credit cards as meaning she could run them back up again and by the time she was looking to move, didn't have enough left before her credit card limits to pay for the van hire...

I would hear the regular updates thinking "dodged a bullet there" and "bet dog owning colleague wishes she had just sucked up the cost of the kennels"

I see what you mean, Dontmind but a lot of these posts aren't even about paying back a favour, sadly.

Years ago when 'Tupperware' parties were alive and well (early 90s) I hosted one and had quite a few work colleagues round as well as (notoriously tight) SIL.

Work colleagues were ordering quite a bit of stuff but SIL was muttering about how expensive it all was. I made it clear to everyone that they musn't feel obliged to buy anything.

Anyway, there was some sort of special offer on where if you spent over £20 you could buy some stacking storage whatnots for £1.99. My boss had spent about £30 (she was the one who started the craze for Tupperware parties! She loved the stuff!) so the rep said "Oh, do you want the special offer containers for £1.99 then?" "No" says my boss "I've already got them thanks" when in jumps SIL and says "Put her down for them and I'll give you the £1.99"

I could have killed her especially when she kept ringing to ask if her Tupperware had arrived yet. My boss laughed about it for months.

See, Dontmind, if I had been that dog-owner that colleague would have lasted about a week and then told she needed to go to the cash machine, NOW, and pay me £200/week in rent or start packing and be out by close of play the next day. And it wouldn't have embarrassed me a jot.

yep expat - didn't help that dog owning colleague earned far more than cheeky woman so I think didn't feel her equal enough to ask and it was always "one more week".... and they worked in the same team sitting on desks next to each other, I worked other side of the building so far easier to say 'no' then avoid.... Once someone's in it's often hard to get rid. (And you wouldn't have marched them to get rent money, you'd have been like me and said no in the first place!)

Oh, and cheeky colleague was most put out when she heard about 6 months later that we'd put up DH's old uni housemate for a couple of weeks when he was between flats - she was indignant that we'd done that for him and not her, not even seeing the difference between someone who was a virtual stranger to someone DH had lived with before, who knew it was 2 weeks max he needed to stay, who offered us rent (which we turned down, but the offer was genuine), and turned up with flowers, wine and chocolate to say thank you, took us out for dinner and generally was very well behaved houseguest if you ignore him and DH sitting up drinking whisky until the early hours talking about their uni days most nights, but that was as much DH's fault as house guest

I think that's the point a lot of the cheeky people don't get, that you'll do something for someone or do something once, that doesn't give them a right to expect it. (like the Mexican house thief, she'd let her SIL stay so it was ok for anyone to stay, she'd let him stay once so that means it was always ok to stay - that some people might be more deserving of your efforts are missed).

'I think that's the point a lot of the cheeky people don't get,'

No, they don't. They are truly that self-absorbed and have that huge a sense of entitlement.

Friends of my parents live in a lovely country pile with a fairly large walled park around it. Once in a while they will get a bang on the door from sightseers who want to see the house, having parked their car across the gates, jumped over the wall and ignored all the 'private property, no trespassing' signs. One couple got extremely irate when they were refused entry and demanded to be let in because they were members of the National Trust and English Heritage :o

dsis is a grabby entited person - has borrowed money left right and centre and never paid a penny back. Owes me a large amount and has never even tried to pay back a single penny. But the final straw was when she tapped my elderly aunty for a couple of grand to "pay the bills" as she was "really skint", "couldnt feed the kids" etc etc...

My lovely aunty had lost her husband of 45 years just a few weeks earlier, and so was pretty vulnerable.

6 weeks later, Dsis was on the phone to aunty when her new sofa was delivered....evidently she forgot where she borrowed the money from, and so didnt even conceal the fact that she had purchased a new £700 sofa.

ANother one....

When DD was a year old, dh was working in another country, and we took a flight over to see him for a long weekend.

We were sat in the window seat, with DD on my lap. A very drunk couple were next to us. I could not escape.

I had brought DD a tub of snacks, as she would miss her tea time. SHe had marmite sarnies and a couple of other bits. The lady was chatting away to her, and nicked a sarnie. Then another. I took the third away, and so she last bit out of DDs hand to eat - the bit that DD had taken a single bite out of. Her partner said "DOnt steal the babies food!" to which she wailed "But I like marmite sandwiches!" AT least he looked embarrassed!

This is such a great thread.

DH is a chef and some people seem to be under the impression that DH likes to work for free. Er, no. One memorable time DH got wind of a woman in the admin department, where he worked, had decided that DH and his best friend (also a chef) would be doing all the catering and provide all the food for her upcoming wedding as a wedding present (so several thousand pounds worth of taking the piss.) She had already booked a venue with this plan. DH had I had married 6 months previously and he didn't do the food at our own wedding (because he is not a contract caterer). Not only that but the cheeky mare was well paid and her fiancé had an incredibly well paid job and we had crappy wages. We still managed to pay for our own wedding.

DH had no problem telling her to piss off.

Funnily enough we weren't invited to her wedding.

Dwells I would have told the air stewards to move the thieving arses away from me. That is just

This thread is like crack

Still howling at 'We gestured to them to fuck off' as well

Haha, this has reminded me of camping at a small local campsite during a festival that was happening in the town.

There were about 5 of us sharing two tents, and we made friends with practically everyone else on the campsite. There was definitely a hippy/crusty element to the whole thing.

Anyway, I came out of my tent one morning and one of the guys we were friendly with was carrying his drum around in a rucksack. My rucksack.

As it dawned on me that, not only had he been in our other tent, he got my rucksack emptied out all of my things from it, including personal stuff!!

Seeing me, he just said nonchalantly (and loudly, in front of everyone) "oh, I'm just using your rucksack. Don't worry, I've put all your tampax and stuff in your tent."

"I had brought DD a tub of snacks, as she would miss her tea time. SHe had marmite sarnies and a couple of other bits. The lady was chatting away to her, and nicked a sarnie. Then another. I took the third away, and so she last bit out of DDs hand to eat - the bit that DD had taken a single bite out of. Her partner said "DOnt steal the babies food!" to which she wailed "But I like marmite sandwiches!"

^ That is beyond the pale!!! I've constructed a new chart in my head now with this at the top, followed by Mexican House thief and the potential house invading germans claiming the bronze medal.