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Should MN support a BPAS call for non-protest 'buffer zones' outside abortion clinics? Tell MNHQ what you think

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RowanMumsnet · 20/11/2014 14:47

Hello all

We've been contacted by the British Pregnancy Advisory Service, who want to know whether Mumsnet can support a call they're going to make for buffer zones around abortion clinics - and as ever we'd like to run it past MNers to see what you think.

Here's what BPAS say:

'Over recent years there has been an escalation in anti-abortion activity outside clinics in the UK. Women attending pregnancy advice and abortion centres are now regularly exposed to groups of anti-abortion activists standing directly outside. Many of these protesters bear large banners of dismembered foetuses, distribute leaflets containing misleading information about abortion, and follow and question women as they enter or leave the centres. Often, these people carry cameras strapped to their chests or positioned on a tripod. Women report feeling intimidated and distressed by this activity as they try to access a lawful healthcare service in confidence. Pregnant staff at clinics have on occasion needed escorting from the building by the police. Recently, NHS staff on premises where a clinic is located have felt so intimidated by the presence outside they have asked for the abortion service to be withdrawn. The closure of a service as a result of anti-abortion activity would be unprecedented.'

'We believe enough is enough.'

'One in three women will have an abortion in her lifetime. We are a society which values freedom of speech, but also one where the vast majority of us support a woman’s access to abortion services. The right to protest needs to be balanced with the right of pregnant women to obtain advice and treatment in confidence and free from intimidation. For those who wish to campaign to restrict women’s reproductive choices, there are plenty of opportunities and locations in which to do so. The space immediately outside a clinic need not and should not not be one of them.'

'Women should feel confident that they can approach centres for advice and services without fear of intimidation, or anxious that their identity will be compromised by protesters filming outside. Establishing access zones free from anti-abortion activists around clinics would provide the reassurance and security women need. We urge all political parties to act to protect women as they make their own personal decision about their pregnancy. Women deserve nothing less.'

We know MNers tend to feel fairly strongly about abortion and that there are views on both sides of this debate - so do please let us know what you think.

Thanks

MNHQ

OP posts:
Didiusfalco · 20/11/2014 17:01

Yes. Please do. Its about time.

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 20/11/2014 17:01

Absolutely 100% yes.

SolomanDaisy · 20/11/2014 17:04

Yes, MN should support this.

LeopardInABobbleHat · 20/11/2014 17:07

Yes, MNHQ should support BPAS in this.

sangfreude · 20/11/2014 17:09

Absolutely. One of the most distressing memories I have is of these people harassing me outside a clinic.

mswibble · 20/11/2014 17:10

Definitely yes, those women are no doubt already having a terrible time of it without a load of placard holding twunts outside.

FrenchLimeBlossom · 20/11/2014 17:12

Yes I support this 100%.

I'd also support a MN campaign to widen access to abortion and to increase the time limits for availability of abortion ie after 24 weeks. Given that in the very sad cases where women discover too late they are outside the limits, and given that in these extremely rare cases there are usually additional complicating factors I think we ought to be supporting women's rights to make informed decisions about their own bodies at any stage of pregnancy up to live birth (appreciate I may be in a minority there, but for me any limits, or any implication of 'good abortions' vs 'bad abortions' are the thin end of the wedge).

Safe legal abortion for all women whatever the circumstances, if they choose to terminate.

Good, practical and long term financial and moral support for all women if they choose not to terminate.

Way, way more emphasis on men's role in impregnating women and subsequently their being required to provide practical and financial support for THEIR children (if born) instead of stigmatising women who prefer not or are not able to terminate but are then not able to support the child alone.

teawamutu · 20/11/2014 17:12

Absolutely support this. It's not protesting, it's misogynist fucking bullying.

Bluestocking · 20/11/2014 17:13

Great idea, I'd be all for it. Thank you.

PervyMuskrat · 20/11/2014 17:19

Yes, completely.

EveDallasRetd · 20/11/2014 17:32

Another yes here, I would also support a call for 'guardians' to help any woman who needed it, to 'run the gauntlet' through protestors to the safety of a clinic.

Monathevampire1 · 20/11/2014 17:34

100% behind this. My body, my choice - your body, your choice. I've dealt with the tragic outcome of illegal abortions and never want us to back to those days.

MsUumellmahaye · 20/11/2014 17:37

YES

peachgirl · 20/11/2014 17:37

Absolutely 100% behind this. It's disgusting that this harassment and bullying happens, and it should be illegal as far as I'm concerned.

moonrocket · 20/11/2014 17:41

I absolutely support this. Everyone should be allowed to make a completely unpressurised choice.
These protesters sadden and sicken me.

TigerTrumpet · 20/11/2014 17:43

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TheHoneyBadger · 20/11/2014 17:49

100%

i'd also like to see charges brought for hate speech (which some of them are resorting to), disturbing the peace and harassment. if the same staff are being subjected to it on a regular basis by the same group for example that surely constitutes harassment?

yes a buffer zone but where they are inciting hatred against individuals or groups of women or staff who work in these places then arrest them for that.

i'm sure there are plenty of existing laws that could be used to stop this if the will was there.

Flingingmelon · 20/11/2014 17:51

I support this, I think the last few weeks have shown that the power of MN can help to bring positive change.

sarahbanshee · 20/11/2014 17:52

Yes, please support this. The places for political debate are Parliament, the free press, and public meetings (real and virtual) - not an individual woman's medical treatment.

IWantDogger · 20/11/2014 17:52

Yes I think we should support this

FTRsGotAShinyNewNN · 20/11/2014 17:57

Definitely support this.
Regardless of which side of the abortion issue you're on (I'm very pro choice) all people have a right to live their lives without harassment and persecution and access healthcare services as they see fit.

Shallishanti · 20/11/2014 18:00

yes, absolutely

maresedotes · 20/11/2014 18:03

Completely support this.

Nohootingchickenssleeping · 20/11/2014 18:05

100% yes. Nobody goes to an abortion clinic having made the decision lightly. These protests make that choice even harder than it already is.

YonicScrewdriver · 20/11/2014 18:10

Yes.