Better Miscarriage Care - could you help with the renaming of ERPC (takes 20 seconds!)?

[KateMumsnet]

Hello

You might remember that we've been working with the Miscarriage Association and the Association of Early Pregnancy Units to find an alternative term for ERPC (Evacuation of Retained Products of Conception), a term which so many of you found insensitive and upsetting. Good news - there's been unanimous support from doctors, midwives, nurses and sonographers for finding a new name to describe the procedure.

Earlier this year we pointed you towards a survey which asked what you'd like the alternative term to be. The favourite amongst those on offer was 'surgical treatment of miscarriage', but many also unilaterally suggested 'surgical management of miscarriage', which wasn't one of the stated options at that time.

This phrase would fit in well with the terms already in use for alternative treatments - "medical management" (with tablets) and "expectant management" (or the natural process).

So could we possibly ask you one more time to follow this link and let us know which term you prefer? We know it's been a rather extended process, but it's a super-quick survey and it would be great to get this as right as we possibly can.

Thanks,

MNHQ

[008]

Done. Thanks Mumsnet.

The words matter. I had a miscarriage last year, here in Germany and although the advice and care that I received were PHENOMENAL, I later received a bill (totally appropriate and correct) but ... from the Pathology department.

I know it shouldn`t matter ... but just the word Pathology...

Anything we can do to make this awful time just a little more bearable has to be worth the time and effort.

[ladyinthelibrary]

Done, as DD1 has just experienced an ectopic loss today. Thanks you MN xx

[freakydeaky]

Done. Well done Mumsnet. Totally agree with all the other posters who have said that the current term is distressing.

[weasar]

Done. Thanks for making me aware of this MN

[ICutMyFootOnOccamsRazor]

Done.

[Incaminka]

Done.

[AmandinePoulain]

Kate can I also reiterate how appalled I am by both the recommendation of expectant management and the change in policy so that women who present with spotting without pain will not be offered a scan? I've spotted in all of my pregnancies - 2 have had a positive outcome, one not - and think that women presenting with any amount of bleeding should be offered a scan, not a pregnancy test (I still tested positive for weeks after my mc, a test when I started spotting would have told me nothing). Will you be feeding that point back as well?

[igggi]

AmandinePoulain it might be worth reposting your comments on the other thread, in case they are overlooked on the ERPC one.

[AmandinePoulain]

I did, I was one of the first on there but no one from MNHQ has posted there for ages, I was responding to kate's last post.

[lastnerve]

Done

I had a threatened miscarriage and was left in the main waiting room for an hour ,sat on a towel bleeding out everywhere, I can remember I took my preg notes with me and everyone was staring. plus the fact this hospital had big glass bay windows so everyone outside could see. that was very undignified.

[KateMumsnet]

AmandinePoulain - yes, we'll make sure all the objections are passed on.
Maples - Hmm, that's a good point about the title of the thread not alerting MNers to the proposed changes. We'll have a chat here and think about re-stickying with a different title.

[soontobemumofthree]

Done

[Mama1980]

I answered the question then read the thread, have to say I am also appalled at the idea that a woman presenting with bleeding but no pain etc would not receive a scan. I bled heavily during my pregnancy had dozens of scans, they were the only thing that gave me hope. The bleeding at 8 weeks was so heavy the dr told me I had certainly mc only for a scan to show my ds jumping away.

[Laurarj84]

Done. Thank you.

[pixiestix]

Done. Thanks MN

[Wolfiefan]

Done. Thanks mumsnet. Term upset me when I had to have one.

[wimbledonisfuckingdull]

Done. Like another poster, I had six. It didn't bother ME too much as I nursed on the ward and used the erm ERPC daily. DH otoh, was gutted by it.
I see his point.

[ash6605]

Missed abortion was the term that upset me the most, my work sick note actually implied I'd had an abortion

[BecsA]

I found this thread as I had to have an ERPC last week and found the name one of the most upsetting things to deal with - I had lost a baby who was very much wanted, not the 'products of conception'. I'm appalled that this term is still is use despite it seeming from this and other articles online that it was to have been changed some time ago - is there any update? I'd like to think that those facing this in future would have that one less thing to face.