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Challenge the Proposed CSA changes

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ShirleyKnot · 01/12/2011 16:08

Could we talk about having some sort of campaign to bring awareness (and hopefully some action) for the many thousands of lone parents who are receiving pitifully small sums of money, or nothing at all, from the NRP?

I have been reading about the proposed changes here and I'm HORRIFIED!

I was on a thread recently here where many posters shared their sad tales about feckless NRP being asked to pay pennies per day for their children - and still not receiving even these pathetic amounts.

It seems that the CSA is a fairly toothless beast.

On a personal level, I have recently claimed for my two children (14 and 11) after nearly 10 years of no financial (or any other!) support.

My X refused to answer any of the CSA letters requesting salary information. He is self employed and therefore impossible for the CSA to get access to his income (although they do ask the Inland Revenue for previous accounts - in my X's case he hasn't submitted returns). Eventually an order was placed on him for £40.00 / week. Should the Inland Revenue not now be investigating why he hasn't paid any tax in the last few years? Surely this should be automatic?

He has not paid. I contacted the CSA today to ask what was happening with my case and was informed that they can't start court proceedings until the arrears mount up to £500.00 or 13 weeks worth of non payment.

The point of this is that, I'm used to it! I scrape by on my wages and we're fine - but what if we weren't?

What if I needed that £40.00 to feed our children?

I'm hoping that others will come onto this thread with ideas of what form this campaign should take - and also to maybe confirm the vague feeling I have that lone parents are going to be asked to contribute towards the CSA's work via their maintenance payments. (I may have this wrong)

Let's try and change this shall we? Or at least make a stand?

OliviaMumsnet · 02/12/2011 22:48

Hello lovely Shirley and lovely the rest of you
So, hope you don't mind but we are going to move this thread to "In the News" for the time being, until the folk at HQ who look after campaigns have the time to look into everything properly (which is def not going to happen over a weekend, for a start, I'm afraid.)
Shirley, I will email you too
Thanks
M Towers

OliviaMumsnet · 02/12/2011 23:08

@ShirleyKnot

I have to tell you that I am REALLY fucking upset at this.

CRYING UPSET.

I've worked so hard to build awareness across the boards and this is such a relevant campaign.

PLEASE don't move it to the News

Yikes.
Sorry Shirley we really don't want anyone upset over this.
We will leave this thread here for the moment - and keep you posted from our end as and when.
Sorry we can't look into it sooner.

HelenMumsnet · 03/12/2011 13:34

Hello all.

And yikes at all the hoohah last night.

Obviously, it wasn't our intention to upset anybody (least of all the lovely ShirleyKnot).

We appreciate that there may not be enough clarity about what this topic is for.

We did try - in our little note at the top of every thread in this topic - to make it clear that it's a topic for threads about "official" campaigns being run by Mumsnet (like our Miscarriage Care campaign) or for how-do-you-feel-about-this type discussions, started by the folks in our Campaigns team, about campaigns Mumsnet is thinking of running.

It's not really the best place for folks to start threads about campaigns you'd like us to get behind - not because we're being sniffy or difficult - but because it creates confusion.

You see, people looking at our Campaigns topic, who maybe don't know MN that well, will think every thread here is about a campaign MN is officially endorsing. And that may well be turn out to be fine in the case of this campaign of ShirleyK's but it perhaps ain't so fine in the case of someone campaigning to "Save rabbit hutches from being destroyed by dangerous radiation leakage" or whatever.

Not that we've got anything against rabbit hutches, obvs...

We do take Mme Lindt's point, though, that there does need to be somewhere, perhaps, where MNers can build up/gauge support for a campaign they'd like Mumsnet to take on.

And also that, if threads like this need to be moved elsewhere, then so should any other threads in this topic that aren't about official MN campaigns. Fair's fair and all that.

Hope that makes some kind of sense.

We'll leave this thread here for the time being. And we'll certainly let our Campaigns team know it's here.

HelenMumsnet · 03/12/2011 14:44

@ShirleyKnot

Hello!

Sorry Olivia! I was overtired last night.

Thanks Helen for explaining and for leaving the thread here for a little while.

I deffo think a topic is needed for people to drum up support for campaigns.

At least my tantrum meant MNHQ know this thread is here I guess! GrinBlush

Now, now, tantrums do NOT get you what you want, Shirley.

Don't make me put you on the naughty step...

KateMumsnet · 05/12/2011 15:57

Hello all

Thanks for drawing our attention to this and really sorry it's taken us a while to get back to you.

We spoke to Gingerbread this morning to see how the land lies, because currently these proposals are being debated in the House of Lords as part of the scrutiny of the Welfare Reform Bill. The transcript is here if you want to have a look.

Interestingly, there's considerable cross-party opposition to the plan to charge parents with care to access the Child Maintenance and Enforcement Commission's services. Lord Mackay (Conservative peer) is proposing to table an amendment to drop this requirement if the parent can show that they have tried to come to a voluntary arrangement, and his amendment will be debated in January if the govt doesn't back down before then.

Also worth noting is the fact that the Work and Pensions Select Committee has recommended that the charging proposals be dropped; the govt had three months to respond and didn't do so, which might (or might not!) indicate that they're considering their position.

The govt is due to launch a consultation on these charges sometime before Christmas, and when that happens we'll be sure to link to it prominently via a sticky thread in Active Convos; we'll also feed through all your comments to the DWP.

Gingerbread are currently watching carefully to see how things pan out, and we've agreed to stay in close touch and also offered to help out as much as we can when they decide on next steps - we'll keep you updated on progress.

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