Stop the Abolition of DLA

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The government are proposing to get rid of DLA in favour of PIP. full consultation here

Riven started a fantastic thread in Chat with the very pertinent point that this applies to everyone, that every one of us could be just one step from disability themselves.

There is NOTHING in the media about this. These proposals could mean poverty for the disabled and their families in this country. It could leave some in residential care completely isolated from their families and support networks through the removal of the mobility component.

My family has already been hit three times through the NHS, education and aiming high, via the cuts, if they now remove the money from our pockets we are going to be in a heat or eat situation.

Please MNHQ do something, as many are oblivious to these proposals and what they will mean, including those who themselves already claim DLA.

Yes, just join the Labour Party for a pound if you're under 27,link in with their campaigns on Facebook and Twitter to get all the updating,campaigns etc! I want to get back to a caring society too - will post around about this!

Whoops, maybe that classes as 'another campaign?' - how do I edit or delete or move?

so the premis that sparkly panties calls for my censorship is that i defend myself in personal attaks on my late mother and myself, all based in inccorect assumtion. I had a choice to ignor it, challenge robustly or launch an equally personal innacurate attack. because i exposed her making things up about what has been said to her by reps of the authorities simply doing all they are individualy capable of. suggesting that with or without DLA people in simmilar circumstances will both flourish and fail. suggesting that if someone is unwilling and/or unable to take care and provide for themselves then it is less likely that they can satisfy another's need.

it is in societies best interests to provide and offer support for those who can't/won't. the attitude that because there is a need then it must be met on the terms of the claimant is preposterous. as some may recognise the people in need that they care for have thier needs met on the terms of the care giver not the other way around.

I have read page after page of emotionaly loaded, exaggerated and logicaly flawed reactions to clearly difficult circumstances. it is the nature of the reactions that appears to me to be the biggest problem and barrier. many many people live in difficult circumstances accepting limitations of situation and celebrating the things they can do. these people survive and are happier. there is a lot of energy here, hold onto that and direct it profitably, i you like.

read 'the diving bell and the butterfly' for inspiration or look to men and women of our armed forces who return missing limbs, thier change in circumstances often viewed as a complete breakdown of everything that defines them proffesionaly and personaly, thier reaction, varied but in significant preportions quite astounding and certainly insperational...i could go on. why is it that the success stories we see often have little to do with more or less benefits but the thoughts an actions of the claimant?

How is everyone this morning?
Spent ages reading this thread and am in awe of the lot of you.
Well, most of you anyway.
I too claim DLA and feel like a scrounger. Cannot believe what a shitty deal so many of you have had.
I have been so lucky to get support for my conditions but I dont expect my DLA award to continue after my application this year. I will appeal of course.
Have signed petitions.

MadameOvary

Feel like helpinf The Broken of Britain put together our submission to the consultation on DLA reform?

Morning all.

Thanks rhydian and others for the useful links will try and read and sign all over the weekend. My ds has mild sn and no real dx so i dont claim but so many of my friends have disabilities or are carers that i feel strongly about the social justice aspect of these reforms. Wonder if all those who dont object to the cuts or feel more respite shld not be funded will be handing back their CB.

Thanks rhydian and others for the useful links will try and read and sign all over the weekend. My ds has mild sn and no real dx so i dont claim but so many of my friends have disabilities or are carers that i feel strongly about the social justice aspect of these reforms. Wonder if all those who dont object to the cuts or feel more respite shld not be funded will be handing back their CB.

Thanks rhydian and others for the useful links will try and read and sign all over the weekend. My ds has mild sn and no real dx so i dont claim but so many of my friends have disabilities or are carers that i feel strongly about the social justice aspect of these reforms. Wonder if all those who dont object to the cuts or feel more respite shld not be funded will be handing back their CB.

We heard you the first time TC

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Love it!

I think WB has made a lot of assumptions in his posts.

Almost every caer I know was or is a taxpayer; many disabled people getting DLA is also. I hope ds1 will be.

carers (and CA is accessed via DLA0 all have a vote.

this is a democracy.

We all ahve a right to campiagn and ask for whatever we want. AS does he, and of course to fill in the DLA forms.

I wonder though when many lose ther houses when DLA is vut if he will mind stepping voer them in the streets, or that if DH and I lose our home we will end up in state housing and have to close both our fledgling businesses (no advice on trying to self solve neded ehre thanks) due to HA rules on not working from homes they provide.

Hmm.

Am aghast DC claimed DLA; we never claimed CTB all teh time we were entitled as we could afford just about from DH's student loan, even though we have to pay that back and meant we went without a lot. I consider claiming what you don;t need as immoral as claiming what you are not entitled to.

finaly someone to post on subject, i don't claim to have knowledge of the ins and outs of claiming any benefit. my opinions are firmly based in the effect of individual attitude to challenges in life in general. the loss or preservation of DLA or for that matter any other benefit is i believe hugely insignificant to those i see and read about whos determination overcome thier own challenges.

i have also suggested that we need a step change attitude to the presevation of carrer/client relationship when for whatever reason the situation begins to fail. we see people in many circumstances who hold on so tight and often in the face of this bieng the very cause of distress. lovers do it when thier relationship is failing, the loss of a family member or friend, the advice is always the same, grief has stages one of which is moving on.

i can't solve your problems. i won't attack you personaly. this outpouring of emotion and identified use of exagerated language when reporting what 'was said by them' fuels nothing but a negative effect.

i might however poke a little bit if you attack me and choose an odd screen name

Peeeeeeeeeachy...
The Peachy? March/April 08 post natal thread?
Hello
Rhydian, hello, be delighted, what do I do? Sorry short term memory is pants, apologies if you've stated already!

Do you eman me? My dear, I have been ehre for ten years; had a different name for a while and am simply reverting to a verion of orignal: nothing odd there.

There is no value to society in handing our children over to a care system that is both over stretched and has a deficit of foster care available.

However where the big governmental mistake is imo is awarding CA and then treating us as a forgotten bunch. We retain our potential and quite often, as the challenges of new diagnosis pass and the multtitude of work fades (dependent on diagnosis) we want to drop the whole benefit thing and move onwards. DLA isn;t for us, it is simply there to cover the costs of disability. however far too manyc arers and disabled people end up on benefits they should not have to claim.

The best way to tackle that is via the availability of education retraining and childcare.

A few examples: I am a graduate, when my two were diagnosed I realised my planned career was no longer viable but I could perhaps work as a TA (I wanted to teach- PGCE course was many miles away and commuting not viable). I could not get TA funding becuase of my degree, all college funding ceases with that. Now, awarding me as a carer a course of a few hundred pounds could ahve saved the taxpeyer much momey as shortly after my DH was made redundant from his job.

Childcare has been inaccessible to us: DS1 is aggressive and it's a small place, word gets around. The severe SN school hs a unit attached thatb provides after school care but he is in mainstream atm (and would not qualify for a place there) hence we are left. There HAVE to be better ways.

My CA in entirety goes directly to university to enable me to set qualify in my field with an MA and set up alone (as my DH has already done). In fact this is hugely and sadly in line with policy as I am in a field fformerly provided by the state. Take away the DLA and CA and that ends along with yet another avenue of escaping the poverty trap. How would that help anyone? Far better to enable that, and gove me access to the support is starting up alone that the unemployed get, no? (carers cannot currently access that easily).

MO indeed

How is your LO?

LOL I meant that to souns more effusive but my LO is sat on my lap and distracting me

Sorry meant

Well Hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

WilliamBarton

You say 'y opinions are firmly based in the effect of individual attitude to challenges in life in general. the loss or preservation of DLA or for that matter any other benefit is i believe hugely insignificant to those i see and read about whos determination overcome thier own challenges.'

That tells me that your opinions are based on ignorance and sheer bloody-mindedness. DLA is not insignificant to living with disability. Many people on DLA - including myself - work and pay taxes, which would not be possible without DLA. Many people would have to live in residential care and hospitals, at far greater cost to the state, if not able to claim DLA. The government's health and social care bills would be far higher without DLA.

The examples you give, of injured servicemen without limbs, is ridiculously simplistic. Extrapolating from a handful of supremely fit people who are injured and then recover to live with a small adjustment (loss of a limb), is a feeble attempt at trolling. Attitude is part of living with disability, inasmuch as it has to do with anything - but to pretend that it is more important than DLA is ridiculous and insulting, especially coming from someone who clearly has no clue what they are talking about.

MadameOvary

Go [http://thebrokenofbritain.blogspot.com/2011/01/submission-on-dla-reform-second-draft.html here]] and you'll find everything explained.

Injured servicemen (or anyone else) doing visible heroic things are usually backed by substantial benefits packages - sometimes from their employer, sometimes in the form of public benefits.

But the benefit package is invisible - the media don't report on it or on the deeply boring, unpleasant elements of daily care it pays for (toilet needs, unemployability due to the bad days not shown on telly, varying mental confusion due to illness, etc etc)

I'd like to go to the protest on Monday, so I'm staying in bed today and most of tomorrow in the hope of being well enough, and expect to be in bed from it for days afterwards. If you see me on the telly, you won't know about that bit. And if on Mon morn I'm not feeling well enough, you won't see me at all.