What book or method would you recommend for getting twins into a routine?

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Twins nearly 10 weeks old. They have no routine. All attempts to get one failing miserably. Can't get them in sync if ones awake, the others asleep.If one's hungry the other's not. I'm losing the will to live. never sleep more than 3 hours at once. never a minute free from them. tandem feeding is getting really difficult due to colic and them getting big. they never stop feeding. got a three year old too. need sleep so much. Any book or method you would recommend pleeease!

abghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhooooooooooooo...that is the sound of me falling asleep on the keyboard. Routine is not working. Full stop.

The stretch from the 7pm feed to 10.30 feed is usually fine (we have to wake them for the 10.30) but they never, ever make it to 3am - usually just until 2.15, and you would need the patience of a saint to soothe a screeching baby for 45 minutes, every night. Let alone two screeching babies for 45 minutes every night. Actually maybe everyone reading this is thinking that having that saint-like patience is what makes you a mother - if so I am decidedly un-motherly.

The 3am feed is usually followed by them waking up about 6.15, for the 7am feed, so that process is repeated.

Now I am worried that I am not feeding them enough - although tried topping up with expressed milk last night at 3am, no discernible improvement.

The boys are 10 weeks old - am I expecting too much too soon? I also wondered whether anyone has tried feeding the twin that wakes, and leaving the other one to sleep?

oooo! i've tried that leaving the sleeping one. regretted it every time. ended up exhausted but i think its worth trying once just so you can rule it out as something that doesn't work iyswim

I've done 2 weeks of waking them at 11pm for a feed and there was no improvement in rest of night and it was really hard to get a full feed in them as they were just too sleepy - i've stopped it now. Instead mine wake about 1am then again at 5am (dh does the 5am) and although they have been waking again after the 5am, i'm usually well rested enough to make em wait til 7:30am

I am at you udder. You are made of much tougher stuff than me, because surely you are making your life sooooo much more difficult by trying to soothe your babies in the night rather than just feed them. 10 weeks is still so, so young. Why don't you cut yourself some slack and have a few days of just seeing what they do naturally? If they want to be fed 3 hourly at the moment would it not just be quicker to feed them and be done with it.

And another thing. With dd1 I found that waking her at 11 was actually disrupting her more. When I dropped the 11 o'clock wake up she then went through till 5...before that she had been waking at 2ish.

(I am from the lazy school of mothering though. I go to bed early. When they wake I pick them up, feed for 10/15 minutes with my head slumped forward, then plonk them down.)

NKffff you sound like you are getting lots of sleep to me, they'll be going through soon I bet.