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Foreign Moms in Scotland ?

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Leesmom · 06/03/2006 12:33

Hi there, I am a mom to a 13 month old and live near Glasgow Scotland, looking for some other moms from countries different then the UK, as I find my scottish relationships are not what I would like or expect from friendship etc.
Take care

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prettybird · 06/03/2006 12:56

Sorry to hear you've not got what you wanted from friendships in Scotland.

I'm Scottish and live in Glasgow. But my parents did come from South Africa when I was wee (and my brother even younger - I was 3, he was one), so I have lawys been brought up in an environment of wellcoming newcomers.

I know of two Scottish based mumsnetters who are are from other countries: geegeesmum who lives near Perth), although she's not been on for a while, and expatinscotland, who lives in Edinburgh.

Are you north or south of Glasgow? Maybe it's where you are that is the issue, rather than Scots in general?

We're a friendly bunch generally - as those who have been to the recent meet-ups will attest! :) We had one recenty in Glasgow (Princes Square) and we are currently trying to wrok out when and where to have the next one.

My own ds is 5.5 and I am 44 (but am told I look younger! - don't feel it at the moment!). I live on the south side of Glasgow.

Leesmom · 06/03/2006 13:56

Hi there, and thanks for replying!
I am almost 38 :) and have a 13 month old baby girl, I am married to a scot and been living here for 7 years now.
2 years spent in south side of Glasgow where my inlaws still stay :) lovely area!

Re what you wrote, I am not saying the scots are not friendly...I simply find that it was easier for me to form friendships with other foreigners rather then the locals, and I do have local friends its just not what I would expect from a friendship...
Before I had my baby I used to work and made friends with a Norwegian girl and a finnish girl and they also felt it was easier to be friends with ppl who are not local...
I have some friends from SA as well :) (capetown) and they share my feelings that its very hard to make the connection to the locals...as much as i am sorry to say this, they are not as open as they seemed to me a few years ago.
Please dont get me wrong,I think the scots are a lovely nation, my hubby is scottish and I love him and his family to bits, however I cant seem to establish what i would call a true friendship with any of the scottish ladies that I meet in the various moms groups I go to.
Its not a lang barrier, my english is very good,its just that i am used to more openess, I am used to going out for coffe and a chat without making an appointment like 12 weeks in advance, what can I say....I can understand in many ways the locals have no need for new friends as they have their high school mates and uni mates etc. right here ...whilst I left all behind when I came here...

Again thanks for replying and very nice to meet you :)

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fimbo · 06/03/2006 14:05

I think you get that scenerio anywhere Leesmom. I am Scottish Grin but moved to England 5 years ago. I found at first the people that spoke to you, were people who had moved areas rather than the locals. Now I have 3 really good friends where I live, 2 of whom are locals and the other is Scottish. I do have another friend who I see occasionally because although our dss' are the same age, their current routine is entirely different, which makes meeting up almost impossible as my ds is usually asleep when hers is awake and I also have an older child to collect from school, so afternoons are not good either. The Glasgow meet-ups always seem to be fun perhaps you could try that as a new way of meeting people. Good luck! Smile

prettybird · 06/03/2006 14:31

Have to admit that I never went to any Mother & Toddler groups. Closest i got was going to the breast feeding support group for ds' first 4 months, beforeI went back to work!

I don't really have many friends locally: a combination of being an older mother, having gone away to Uni (so my friends from Uni are scattered all over the country), having worked in Egnland for 10 years after I graduated, working full time now .........

So I don't really have any school or uni friends to fall back on either! I was from the North side anyway - Bearsden/Milngavie - (there, I've given myslef away as a snob! Wink) and now I'm on new territory, Pollokshields.

Am only now, over 13 years since I moved back to Scoltand ( to be with now dh) starting to make "new" real life friends: for example, the mum of the boy across the road that ds plays iwth. I've also met up a few times with a mumsnetter who I met at a meeting least October.

One of my other friends is a South African who has young twins. She has been "adopted" by my parents, who are like surrogate grandparents to the twins.

It is difficult to make new friends: I often wish I had a local friend like my best friend, who lives in North Wales.

With working full time, it is difficult to find time to do "new" things where you would meet others. My weekends are precious times to spend with dh and ds - and to catch up on housework! Grin. And week nights I am too kanckered to think of doing anything, although once a week, I do make time to go to a Pilates class.

one day, I will get organised enough to do other things!

I used to be good at making freinds in new places: after all, I met dh in Miami, at Junior Chhamber World Congress Grin and I have various friends still from the different places I lived when I worked in England.

I also lived a year in France during my degree, so I've also lived in a "foreign" country.

Anyway, why not come along to the next Scottish meet-up anyway - even if we are not "foreign"!

Pagan · 06/03/2006 14:44

Hi Leesmom - I too found it difficult to make friends at the local groups and I am Scottish born and bred. I don't think it's a cultural thing more just the age we live in - there was only one other mum at the one I went to as the rest were childminders or grans.

My DH was surprised that I hadn't made more. Anyway I'm on the southside of Glasgow if you ever feel like a coffee

Leesmom · 06/03/2006 18:52

Thanks all again!

Thanks for replying....

Been feeling too lonely lately which is why I decided to post this MSG.
Its not easy beeing a mom and its even harder when you are far from your friends and home.

Would be happy to meet up, I have a car and I drive, I live about 20 miles outside of Glasgow to the west.

Thanks again

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harrisey · 10/03/2006 19:29

Hi I'm a Scottish Mum living in Scotland and moving to Glasgow in July (to study)- so would love to hear more about meetups etc .....! I'm very friendly and my diary is never boked up 12 weeks in advance!!!

expatinscotland · 10/03/2006 19:33

I'm an American married to an Edinburgh native and mum to two daughters - ages 2.8 and 3 months.

Welcome aboard! I've been here for 4 years and have a mix of friends from all over the place.

expatinscotland · 10/03/2006 19:36

I can relate, Lees, don't worry, it's not just you! There are some cultural diffs, of course. I grew up in a very open society as well.

:)

expatinscotland · 10/03/2006 19:39

Ooo, where outside Glasgow? I have a really good friend in Arygll, in Blairmore. Lovely place!

Leesmom · 10/03/2006 23:41

Hi Expat :)

I stay just on the borders of argyle and bute actualy :) please send me a mail to :

[email protected]

would love to have a chat, have MSN messenger as well.

Ta

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Gracelo · 11/03/2007 10:18

I'm in Scotland since Feb 2002 and made the same experience, but I'm not sure if it's an age or a cultural thing.
I havn't had any problems making friends in the US or in NZ but I was a childless student then.
There are some lovely people (Scottish and internationals) at work but I'm their boss, so I can't really get too close to any of them.
I'm in Oban with dd 2.5 and Kiwi/English dp, were in Dundee/St Andrews before.

Gracelo · 11/03/2007 10:20

Ooops, just realized this thread is a year old

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