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boundary/fence issues with horrid neighbour. (longest ever post on mn)

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MarmadukeScarlet · 26/06/2009 13:26

A bit of background - we live in a barn converted 30 yrs ago, the farm cottage is bang next door and has access over part of OUR drive to get to their property.

She is a miserable old bat of 80 who, despite me never having done anything to upset her, has screamed abuse and threatened me. She is a bully and very unpleasant (you would laugh is you saw how much she makes me shake when I'm a fit 30 something, but I just don't do confrontation), she has fallen out with all 3 residents of our property, has lived here 45 yr so thinks she owns the place.

We need to replace the panel fence between us, her climbers have damaged it and it has reached the useful end of its life. We are having a post and rail put up, fencer has told me that he cannot board her side of the fence as she has too many shrubs, trees etc there are no laws governing this.

I informed her on monday that 2 weeks a fencer was coming to remove fence, it would be beneficial to her plants if she were to remove them from said fence because if fencers do it they may damage them. I also politely pointed out that they would need to move their car onto their own property as the contractor would need access with a small digger (also having some paving done but anyway she has no right to leave car where she has been leaving it)

I told her what fencer had said about boarding not being possfrom her side and she would have the arris rail.

An hour later she approached me in a very aggressive manner telling me she had taken advice (from a neighbout who I then saw return in her car, so she had been out and her computor) and I would be breaking the law, also said the border was narrow enough without having the arris rails. I politely pointed out there was no law and if she had the arris rails she wasuld actually gain some ground as posts 4" square and would be placed up to boundary and boarded on my side. She then said she would be taking professional advice, I politly said I looked forward to her doing so. She then asked if I was prepared to upset a condsidate neighbour about this. I gave a small snort and pointed out she was the least considerate neighbour I'd had. She asked for examples, I was able to name several including where she had let a visitor of hers block my car in making me 25 minutes late to collect DD from school. She countered this with why didn't you ask me to get it moved, to which I replied I did you told me it was the nurse dressing your DH's wound and I would have to wait. I also reminded her of the shouting abuse/threats she had made. She couldn't recall it at first then said, "oh, but that was 2 years ago."

Anyhoo, she takled me again today and said she has spoken to 2 surveyors and the CAB and taken Legal advise and I would be 'getting a letter'. I then called my solicitors who handled the house sale and regaled their dispute resolution chap with the sordid details.

No where on any deeds is a T marker noting who has responsibility for this, land reg have them on line and cannot see either. Solicitor says if I am convinced current fence is correctly placed up to the boundary then go ahead and replace away in whatever manner I wish.

I didn't ever want to live here due to 2 complex access issues and the adjoining rivers etc, it was my DH's choice of house, I have never settled here but we now cannot afford to move.

Since this am when she tackled me I have been shaking and not wanting to go out into the garden with DS. This is what happens everytime she confronts me.

Solicitor is happy (if I pay him) to write a letter for me to give to her if when the fencer starts she kicks off.

I don't know how much longer I can live like this, I have a DH that works away, 2 DC with SN (one only mild SEN other severe SN) and no support. I gave my DH hell on the phone today pointing out that I never wanted to buy this place and now I am sorting out all the shit.

Should I just hope that she will shuffle off to an old folk's home whilst I still have my sanity?

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MarmadukeScarlet · 26/06/2009 22:38

And she NEVER shouts at him, she reserves her particular ire for me alone... He has heard her shout at me and did come out to see what the noise was about

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ingles2 · 26/06/2009 22:50

special funnel!?!?! not me sweetheart, I'm a splash it all over kinda girl
Well it's obvious with the neighbour then...
everytime she was to have a go at you, just say,... dh really wants to talk to you about this and explain, shall I tell him to come and see you?
or dh has all the info, I'll get him to explain...
then leave it to him! just be obtuse, don't say anything
his dream house, his fence, his bloody neighbour!

MarmadukeScarlet · 26/06/2009 23:12

by special funnel, I obviously mean a sparkling water bottle with the bottom cut off upended into the earth. I thought t'was you...I do it for my toms to stop their roots rising.

Good idea about the DH/MOB (miserable old bag) situation.

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ingles2 · 26/06/2009 23:23

I cut my sparkling water bottles in half, but use them as mini greenhouses to protect the plants from the chooks
I'm a lot more slapdash with me watering!

TinyPawz · 26/06/2009 23:37

TBH, I would do it anyway....but I am a contrary so-and-so.

And for the second time tonight, I am going to say I think old ladies/gents has completely lost the run of themselves!!!

Fizzylemonade · 27/06/2009 15:47

MarmadukeScarlet I don't think people understand how draining it is living next to a complete nightmare of a neighbour until they have endured it themselves.

A home is meant to be a sanctuary not a war ground.

Gardenlaw people very good, land reg is very wishy washy on boundaries stating that a line on a plan could be out by up to 1m wide on the ground unless it lines up with a building wall or corner of a building.

I would go ahead, seriously your life couldn't get any worse. CCTV may be the answer too to catch her bad mouthing you. There are forums on gardenlaw about this. It may seem extreme but sometimes it is the answer.

You have my sympathy. I'll happily have some of your courgettes and your tomatoes

of your veg plot, ah to have a garden bigger than a postage stamp

sweetfall · 27/06/2009 15:59

I agree with telling her how intimidating you find her. You can tell she hasn't realised that she scares you and thinks she is a good neighbour.

Are you a good neighbour to her or do you duck away in fear all the time.

Could you bring yourself to invite her for tea and cake and try to resolve this. Maybe after the fencing of course. Sometimes people need to realise that they are upsetting people by being told they don't just know because you're hiding away

MarmadukeScarlet · 28/06/2009 09:57

Thank you Fizzy and Sweet and everyone else.

I think I am a good neighbour, I always wave and say hello when she is staring at me - she used to come to her door/path just to watch me reverse out everytime, I found waving merrily soon put her off.

I give her eggs from my chooks and recently when our electricity sub staion was being repaired we had no leccy all day, I returned from the veg patch in the paddock (so obviously not coming from the house) and she said, "have you got your electricity on?" I had noticed as I walked down that my from security light was on, so I answered , "yes". She informed me that hers was not yet on and she would phone her supplier. I kindly offered her a cup of tea as I had been looking forward to one all day and she retorted with a sneer that they had a camping stove and had been drinking tea all day.

I never let the Dc out in garden until after 8.30 weekends and they are not allowed to scream etc. We do not have raucous parties and ensure none of our guests leave their cars on the part of the drive where it would inpinge on her access.

We are planning to change the access to our jouse as soon as we get money/planning permission, and our drive will run across and up our front paddock - a big expense but then we can fence off her access requirements and double the size of our garden.

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mamas12 · 28/06/2009 12:35

It sounds as if whatever you do she will find something to complain about. That's what some people are like they like a drama.
SO, al song as you keep within the law I'd say do what you like she can complain but take no more notice of her, refer her to your dh and carry on.
You have done enough now.
Enjoy your home.

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