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Does a police caution show up on a check for a criminal record?

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zookeeper · 02/04/2009 13:53

(she wonders nervously)

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mumof2teenboys · 02/04/2009 14:12

yep, well mine did. But i would imagine it depends on how long ago the caution was. Sorry if that isnt the answer you were hoping for. What i did was to tell my prospective employer that it was there. Depending on what the caution was for, it might not make any difference to the job offer.
Hth

ilove · 02/04/2009 14:13

Yes it does, and on a CRB too.

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 02/04/2009 14:15

Accepting a police caution is the same as pleading guilty but without the hassle of a court case or consequence of a sentence. More people should be aware of this.

zookeeper · 02/04/2009 17:19

~A policemann turned up at my door at 8am one morning and said it didn't matter whether I accepted it or not - I signed it but wrote on it that I did not acceept that it was true - would it be worth contact ing the police?

It was in relation to phoning my exes new girlfriend - I was furious and left her ten or so texts teeling her how awful he was. I then phoned her house and told whoever answered that could she tell the girlfriend that some honesty would be appreciated - it turned out that the person who answered the phone was fiftenn so on the caution it read I had harrasessed a minor.

It wasn't my finest hour but I haven't been tried or convicted of anything so cna I honest;y say I have no criminal record? seems terriby unfair that I would not get ajob on the strength of that

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zookeeper · 02/04/2009 17:21

It's the harrassment of a monnor I object to - I had no idea the girl was fifteen and only ever spoke to her once

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llareggub · 02/04/2009 17:27

Having a caution won't necessarily prelude you from obtaining a job which requires a CRB. A lot depends on the nature of the job, the nature of the offence, how much time has lapsed since the offence took place, and a whole range of other factors. Your prospective employer should have a policy on recruiting ex-offenders if it is running CRB checks, which will outline what will happen with your application.

I used to handle CRB checks on behalf of a large organisation and what we would do is talk to you about the nature of the offence and then make a decision about whether to proceed with an offer of employment. One of the key things is to be upfront and honest about what happened, why and how it won't happen again. We did employ people with criminal records (not restricted to cautions either) and the people within the organisation who had access to the information were limited to those who needed to know. The CRB check itself cannot be kept be file either, so once you're employed, that's it.

llareggub · 02/04/2009 17:28

Preclude, not prelude.

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 02/04/2009 17:29

You could try contacting CAB or a solicitor, since you didn't actually harrass the 15 year old, but really the time to do that was before you signed an official document adnitting that you had.

Seems to me there would be more to this than just ten texts and a phone call, though.

zookeeper · 02/04/2009 17:55

It was ten texts and a phone call Old lady. I then came to my senses. I was incredulous when the police came to the door

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OldLadyKnowsNothing · 02/04/2009 18:19

It does seem unbelievable that plod turn up for that, but when my DS was threatened physically in the street last night, by a man with a record of violent offences including against a pregnant woman, there were no officers available. I'm not disbelieving you, btw.

And to tell you that accepting a caution doesn't matter...

I think I'd actually contact my local MP and kick up stink, tbh. Not sure they can get this removed from your record, and with luck it won't affect your employment prospects (as llareggub says), but you need to get the news out that this is bloody serious.

BetsyBoop · 02/04/2009 20:22

are you sure you got a caution?

I've only heard of a formal caution being done in a police station, they wouldn't do it on your doorstep.

They should have also told you that you have to right to legal advice before agreeing to the caution, and the most important bit is you have to AGREE to accept the caution instead of potentially going to court.

I've managed to find some stuff on it here

yerblurt · 04/04/2009 08:47

Well to be honest your behaviour does constitute harassing behaviour, however, you were under no obligation to sign a caution, which as others have correctly pointed out, is the same as accepting your guilt (nobody should accept a caution btw, they should say 'lets see if the CPS agree' and take it through the courts.

I think cautions do show up on CRB checks.

You've probably got very little chance of getting the caution removed - how long ago was it?

zookeeper · 04/04/2009 10:03

I did write on the piece of paper as I signed it that I did not accept that it was true although of course I acn see that ten texts do constitiute harrassment.

Can I ask for a check to see what it was?

thanks for your comments everybody by the way

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