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Filing Accounts with Companies House

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KatyMac · 14/02/2009 20:37

Oh poop

I though I had done last years accounts (the company didn't trade) & I just got a letter saying I haven't

What do they want - can I do it on-line (if I can find the number) or is it a paper jobby?

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whomovedmychocolate · 14/02/2009 20:39

It's the annual return right? Yeah you need to login with your email address and use the security code they sent you last time. If you've got a letter the security code is there. The authorisation code you need - you should already have but they will resend it in a day or so if you've lost it.

The authorisation code will be something like J07l0D

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KatyMac · 14/02/2009 20:41

Hmm - I'll go & look for it

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KatyMac · 14/02/2009 20:53

The accountant only just sent me the letter - it arrived at the accountant on 12th January

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KatyMac · 14/02/2009 20:53

It's 'Overdue Accounts' I guess they want paper

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ChasingSquirrels · 14/02/2009 20:54

annual return - as wmmc says, and no penalty for late filing.
accounts - if dormant can also file online, but £100 penalty for late filing (increasing with time).

whomovedmychocolate · 14/02/2009 20:54

Ah in that case it's not the annual return. You had to file your accounts for LAST YEAR. They don't fine you immediately but you do need to send them - I assume you have a copy from the accountant?

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KatyMac · 14/02/2009 20:55

No accounts

Never traded

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ChasingSquirrels · 14/02/2009 20:56

If accounts are overdue then they fine.
Your accountant sounds crap - make him pay the fine.

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KatyMac · 14/02/2009 20:57

He said I didn't need him any more as we weren't going to trade soon

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ChasingSquirrels · 14/02/2009 20:59

ok, if you aren't going to use the company at all and plan to get it struck off - then no, you don't need to bother with accounts. You need to complete and file a form 652a and pay £10 and the company gets struck off.

But it you want to keep the company you need to file annual (dormant) accounts, and an annual return - separate items.

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KatyMac · 14/02/2009 21:13

I'll ring them on Monday - The problem is the accountants have the number I need to log on

I guess I need to change the registered office then they can send me the number so I can do next years on-line

I really thought I did this when I did the annual return - I wonder why I didn't I intended to

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KatyMac · 14/02/2009 21:14

Can I do dormant accounts myself?

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ChasingSquirrels · 14/02/2009 21:18

yes, you can do them yourself - either online or paper format - see DCA form at the bottom of the link.
change the registered office online aswell.
You need to get the code from the accountant, and presumably have to register for online services.I would be very unhappy with them taking a month to send on a letter though, although the accounts were presumably already late at that point.

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KatyMac · 14/02/2009 21:22

Yep - but last time it took them 2 months to get the code to me & I like a dipstick 'put it in a safe place' God knows where it is now

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KatyMac · 14/02/2009 21:24

Bingo - I found it

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KatyMac · 14/02/2009 21:29

Oh crap

I don't understand this

Share capitol?? How much of that do I have?

I'm going to have to pay aren't I?

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ChasingSquirrels · 14/02/2009 21:30

have you got the annual return?

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KatyMac · 14/02/2009 21:30

What is "Called up share capital not paid"

& is my one share worth £1?

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ChasingSquirrels · 14/02/2009 21:31

scratch that, you need authorised share capital aswell.
Is this the first year? If not you can buy last year's accounts (will only be £1) and get the info from there.

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KatyMac · 14/02/2009 21:33

I guess I answer no to these?

a. For the year ending 28 February 2008 the company was entitled to exemption under section 249AA(1)of the Companies Act 1985

b. The members have not required the company to obtain an audit in accordance with section 249B(2) of
the Companies Act 1985

c. The Directors acknowledge their responsibility for:
i. ensuring the company keeps accounting records which comply with section 221; and
ii. preparing accounts which give a true and fair view of the state of affairs of the company as at the end
of the financial year, and of its profits or loss for the financial year, in accordance with the
requirements of section 226, and which otherwise comply with the requirements of the Companies
Act relating to accounts, so far as it is applicable to the company.

Umm I filed the annual return on-line

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KatyMac · 14/02/2009 21:33

First year - I have the memorandum & articles is it in there?

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KatyMac · 14/02/2009 21:34

Share capital is £100 divided into 100 share One of which is 'taken'

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ChasingSquirrels · 14/02/2009 21:35

a - yes
b - yes
c - yes

share cap is in memo and arts yes - end of the articles I think.

Do you WANT to keep this company?

ChasingSquirrels · 14/02/2009 21:36

so 100 is the authorised bit
1 is the next bit - which flows onto the balance sheet.
Have you paid for it? this is the called but not paid.
You can say that you have an unpaid share and the company is owed £1.
Or you have paid for it and the company has £1 petty cash.

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KatyMac · 14/02/2009 21:38

I think I want to - it uses my trade name & hopefully post Credit crunch I will open my nursery....maybe?

If I close it I can't reopen it can I? (at least not with the same name)

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