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Taxing on Tips

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TaxOrNoTax · 27/01/2009 14:22

Is it down to your employer to tax tips/gratuities that are received?

I receive tips for every shift worked, but they cannot be touched for a month. On the fourth week when I get my payslip, it states wages, tips and then I am taxed on the whole lot. (FWIW - I work 18 or so hours a week, so the tax without tips is negligible, but when added together it amounts to quite a bit).

Is it taxable?

Any help on this matter greatly appreciated.

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hf128219 · 27/01/2009 14:27

Tips are not subject to VAT but they are subject to income tax.

TaxOrNoTax · 27/01/2009 14:30

Thanks.

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readyfornumber2 · 27/01/2009 16:45

Every so often the tax office will send a request for any cash tips you recieve and you may be charged extra tax.
If the tips show up on your payslip then they will automatically be taxed for you

TaxOrNoTax · 27/01/2009 17:03

Yes, the tips are shown on my payslip.

The reason it has come about is my hairdresser said my employers were wrong to tax me on the tips as it was not down to them. She said "can you imagine me going through the girls tips every week counting up how much they have got and taxing it?"

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PandaG · 27/01/2009 17:05

legally tips should be taxed - your hairdresser should either tax them, or explain to her employees they should fill in a self assessment form at the end of the year.

in reality this often does not happen I know!

readyfornumber2 · 27/01/2009 17:10

You do have to pay tax on tips as it makes up part of your income.
When I worked in a restaurant our card tips went on our payslips and we were taxed on them but we kept cash tips and then every few months I would get a letter from the tax man to declare my cash tips (employer told us to make it realsitic but not 100% truthful lol) and then tax code could be adjusted as necessary.

TaxOrNoTax · 27/01/2009 17:15

so, should tips and wages be taxed as a whole then or separate?

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hf128219 · 27/01/2009 17:21

Well it depends!

You'll have to pay Income Tax on any tips you get when you're working. But you may not have to pay National Insurance contributions (NICs). You'll usually pay the tax and any NICs through PAYE (Pay As You Earn). Tips can sometimes count towards the National Minimum Wage (NMW).

Tips
A 'tip' is a payment that is freely given by the customer, normally in return for services. A compulsory service charge is not a tip because it is not freely given.

How your tax is worked out, and whether NICs are due, depends on the arrangements involving:

who the tips are given to
who decides how they're shared out
Cash tips paid directly to you by the customer

If you get cash tips direct from the customer without involving the employer, you'll have to pay tax on them - but not NICs. You are responsible for telling your Tax Office about these tips and you'll have to show them on your Self Assessment tax return (if you fill one in). You'll need to keep a record of the tips you get so you can do this.

Most people don't have to fill in a tax return. If you don't, your Tax Office will estimate the tips you're likely to get and give you a tax code that will collect the tax through PAYE. Get in touch with your Tax Office if you think the estimates wrong.
Tips paid as part of a card or cheque payment
Some customers may pay their bill by cheque or credit/debit card and add your tip to the payment made to your employer.

If your employer decides to pass on cheque and credit/debit card tips to you they may pass them directly to you or to a 'tronc' (or pool) which shares out tips amongst the staff who are tronc members.

If your employer passes the tip on to you directly:

it's their responsibility to collect tax on it through PAYE
if the employer decides how the tips should be shared out, NICs are due and it is always the employer's responsibility to collect these through PAYE
if the employer doesn't decide or influence how the money is shared out amongst the employees NICs will not be due
If your employer passes on tips paid as part of a credit card or cheque payment via a tronc - or pooling arrangement - the rules in the section below apply.

Tips paid into a tronc and shared by staff
Sometimes tips are pooled and then shared out between all the staff. This is known as a tronc and the person who shares out the tips is called a 'troncmaster'.

When the tips are shared out, the troncmaster has to deduct Income Tax from them through PAYE.

The rules on NICs where there are tronc arrangements in place are as follows:

if your employer decides how the tips are shared out, you'll have to pay NICs on them as well as tax - your employer (not the troncmaster) has to collect the NICs through PAYE
if your employer doesn't decide how the tips are allocated to employees through the tronc, NICs won't be due
Your employer has to tell us if there's a tronc and who the troncmaster is. If it's you, you'll be the one responsible for collecting the Income Tax through PAYE.

You can get help and advice on what you've got to do from the Business Support Team at your Tax Office.

Tips and the NMW
Your employer can use your tips to make up your wages to the NMW. If they do, they must pay your tips through their payroll with your wages.

Service charges
A service charge is an amount added to the bill before it's given to the customer. A compulsory service charge is not a tip. If your employer gives it to you, it's treated in the same way as your wages and you'll pay tax and NICs on it. Your employer can always use a compulsory service charge to make up your wages to the NMW as long as it is paid through the payroll.

If it's a voluntary service charge, it's treated in the same way as a tip. How you pay tax and NICs on it depends on whether it's:

cash that is paid direct to you by the customer and that you keep
added to a card or cheque payment
pooled in a tronc
Bonuses
If your employer pays you a bonus, it's just part of your pay for the job - and you'll pay tax and NICs on it through PAYE. Your employer includes it on your payslip with the rest of your pay.

readyfornumber2 · 27/01/2009 17:21

tips and earnings are added together and then taxed as a total income

TaxOrNoTax · 27/01/2009 17:30

We all have our own boxes and tips are shared out to the people on that shift at the end of the day/night.

We do not accept tips via credit/debit card payment, we accept cash only, hf your post clarifies then what happens with mine is correct.

Thanks everyone for your input - can always trust the wise mners to come up with the goods

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hf128219 · 27/01/2009 17:32

I am just sorry it was so long!

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