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CRB check concerns plz advise...

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tori86 · 08/11/2008 22:27

I am currently in my third year studying social work an enhanced CRB when i first started university showed i had one caution and one reprimand both were juvenile offences (under 18) however have remained on my CRB.
MY CONCERN.
I am currently 7 months pregnant and several months back I was involved in an altercation with my estranged sister.She physically attacked me and in fear for my safety i called the police and reported the incident. There were no witnesses willing to make statments as they felt obliged to stay impartial to my infuriation!
But i was relieved when she finally had to admit to the assult. This was not the end of the situation though because it was at this point she made a counter allergation of assult against me in the hopes of getting herself out of it (and in hopes of ruining my career, knowing it would effect my CRB) The police said that they believed me an sympathised with my circumstances but because i could not be certain that during the attack i did not make physical contact with her even in self-defence i too would be charged with assult. I feel so embarassed at this and angry in all honesty in the system for not protecting me, however i am terrified this is the end of my career.
Does anyone out there know if i could be removed or de-registered from my degree or even employable after this. I cant sleep im so worried i'v spent three years studying and getting in to debt to provide a better future for my two children only to have it taken away.
Thanks in advance for all replys

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ShinyPinkPumpkin · 08/11/2008 22:31

Oh dear.
As an employer of family and social work staff if this showed up on an enhanced CRB disclosure I would probably withdraw my offer of employment.

I appreciate this may not be what you want to hear but that would be my stance on this.

controlfreakyBANG · 08/11/2008 22:34

i'm not sure i understand the stage this is at... are you charged with assault? are you awaiting trial? the obvious point being if you are acquited / the charges are dropped etc then there will be nothing to see on your crim record..... dont you have a professional body you can get advice from (maybe anonymously if you feel that's best...)?

ShinyPinkPumpkin · 08/11/2008 22:36

How old are you now?
How long ago were the other offences?

BoffinMum · 08/11/2008 22:47

I agree with Pumpkin, you are in a bit of a spot here. I might be inclined to take some legal advice about this to sort it all out, if it was me.

tori86 · 08/11/2008 22:56

I just recieved a caution for the assult as i said the police felt it was not needed to take the matter further as they believed the allergation was genuine but had to to caution me regardless. so I technically dont have and convictions. My solicitor said this was preferable rather than taking it to court.
Im now 23 i was under 16 on both the other incidents and i have since been adviced that the reprimand i had for underage drinking no longer exsists and i would now have only recieved an £80 fine and been sent on my way. Times change ! said the solicitor but I fell thats not much comfort for me!

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controlfreakyBANG · 08/11/2008 23:08

yopu mean a caution for the recent incident with your sister??

the police cant make you have / give you a caution.... you have to agree to accept one... if you dont then they have to decide (with cps) whether to charge you or not.... accepting a caution is an admission that you have done the thing alleged.... ie it is admitting that you assaulted your sister. it will show up as such on your crb. sounds like you need to get some proper advice from professional body / your uni (as i said before)

MrsMuddle · 08/11/2008 23:43

On an enhanced disclosure, as well as crimimal record information, there can be "other relevant information", so even if you're not charged with assault, it can still go on your disclosure certificate. Do you have a smpathetic tutor you can speak to about this?

I've employed workers / volunteers to support vulnerable families, and I was responsible for the CRBS checks. To be honest, any mention of a recent assault would be too big a risk for me to take as an employer. sorry

PortAndLemon · 09/11/2008 00:05

You should not have accepted the caution -- accepting a caution is admitting guilt, basically. If you didn't do it and they didn't have any evidence you should have refused to accept the caution and even if charged it's very unlikely that you would have been convicted.

Now you have accepted the caution, you are probably screwed, sorry.

You might be able to sue your solicitor for the bad advice, perhaps -- telling you to accept a caution for something you hadn't done when you were going into a field requiring enhanced CRB disclosures.

dilemma456 · 09/11/2008 08:27

Message withdrawn

unavailable · 09/11/2008 23:51

The assault will show up on your crb. To have been cautioned you have to have accepted guilt in the matter. This will have been explained to you by police at the time. In any interview for a social work post you have an obligation to declare all your convictions - spent or not. You should expect to be asked about them at any interview you are invited to.
If I were you, I would not answer in the way you have posted on here. You sound as if you are not willing to take responsibility for your past behaviour or learn any lessons from it - not good in a prospective social worker.

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