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Inheritance while on Universal Credit: what are my options?

515 replies

Stressedmum6761 · Yesterday 21:43

Hi everyone! 👋 I'm currently losing my marbles and need to speak to anyone who's been in the same boat.

My nanny passed away nearly 2 years ago now and it's taken a while for her things to be settled and sold etc. My family passed me a letter today addressed to me from my sweet, beautiful nan and a cheque for nearly £12K. I've been in absolute bits all day I keep bursting into tears. I've never had this much in my life and never ever expected anything from my nan at all and it's absolutely thrown me.

The thing is I know I should be absolutely THRILLED with this money, I'm on my own with DD who's 6 now. We've just moved into a council house 2 months ago and I'm on UC top up which also covers my rent, my job doesn't pay well but it's a school job and I get my holidays off with DD. I'm panicking more than anything because I know that as soon as I cash this cheque UC are going to deduct money each month (about £120 if my maths is correct).

My family said they know nan wanted me to put a deposit down on a house, which again I know if I get a mortgage my UC stops and I'm financially liable for the payments and any repairs etc if anything goes Pete Tong.

I'm thinking about just putting most of it in a LISA for now and potentially in the future buying a house...maybe a once in a lifetime holiday with the rest. I'm just torn because if I buy a house, I'll be so much worse off than I am now getting help from UC with rent payments etc. I've just moved into this house and started decorating and making it my own. I'm worried about the money sitting there and me being so scared to spend anything while also having money deducted from my monthly payments. Again, I'm absolutely ecstatic I've got this chunk of money for security but the fact that it's going to effect me whether I spend it or not is flapping me to the core.

What do I do? Has anyone had experience with coming into money while also being on benefits? Thank youuu from a very emotional and stressed mum.

OP posts:
EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · Today 12:18

If you’re trying to raise a child alone then you want a safety net. I too wouldn’t want to be throwing away a social housing home and regular UC money. Particularly in a time where education budgets are being slashed and the job market is difficult. If it was hundreds of thousands of pounds that would be different. But it’s 12k. That’s what some MNers spend on a holiday!

BeUmberMember · Today 12:18

Good thinking asking for advice with regard to your recent inheritance. As you already have a council house and have spent money decorating and furnishing it, no way would I move because in the long term all building repairs etc will be paid for, plus no one will be able to take it off you. I very much doubt you would be eligible for a mortgage anyway on a low income from a school, whilst on universal credit and supporting your child. Plus you would need an excellent credit history, and proof of savings and future income. Suggest you put £6000 into an easy access savings account with your bank, and keep the rest in your current account for everyday expenses, and a holiday. Doubt your UC and rent payments will be affected drastically, just enjoy the luxury of having extra money to spend on yourself and child. Your Nanna will have been happy for you.

dedoghairer · Today 12:20

CarrieOakie · Today 11:40

Where would the net contributors be without the carers looking after their aged parents s, the refuge taking away their rubbish, the nurses at the hospital etc

society needs everyone and everyone contributing in different ways

I completely agree, we all need each other but you didn’t answer my question. If we had zero net contributors, where would the money come from to pay the essential carers and bin men and nurses and teachers?

WildCats24 · Today 12:22

time4anothername · Today 10:55

Premium bonds are not a good investment generally.

Martin Lewis has useful info on children's savings https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/savings/child-savings-tax-free/

Note this
If money is given by a parent or step-parent (not grandparents or others) and the interest earned on it is over £100/year from non-ISA savings, the whole thing is taxed like it's the parent's cash.
The £100 allowance is on a 'per parent' basis, rather than a 'per child' basis. The aim is to stop parents using their kids' tax-free allowance for an extra allowance.

This. Based on OP’s salary, she will be allowed £1000 in savings interest. She’d need roughly £20,000 in 5% savings accounts to surpass this (which she doesn’t).

Premium bonds are for people who have surpassed their tax free interest allowance. This is not OP.

hcee19 · Today 12:36

Really, you try to help people to hide any money they may recieve, known as deprivation of capital. If the op deliberately gets rid of £6,000, specifically to reduce savings and keep the amount of benefits she already has, the DWP, treats it as notional capital. This means they will still treat ,the op as thought you still had £12,000. They then could reduce or stop benefits and then investigate the op. Be honest

caringcarer · Today 12:44

Personally I'd look into whether I could get a mortgage or not on money you earn, any child benefit and maintenance. It's what your Nan wanted for you so I'd look into that first with mortgage advisor. Try Town and Country because they are free and will check it all out for you. Do you have any other savings you could use for solicitors costs if you did buy a house? It would give you and your DD security if you could do it.

As a pp has stated if you didn't claim rent allowance you'd get UC paid at a higher rate.

Could you look for either a job with more hours or take on an additional job in school holidays. Holiday clubs are always looking for people to help run them.

Take your time. If you have never had this much money before don't get carried away and rush to spend it too quickly.

As a cheque you'd need to cash within 3 months. Once you cash you will get less UC on a sliding scale so still some help as under £16k.

You might find a holiday or a little runaround car would be beneficial for you and DD.

Have you spoken to your Mum because if you've inherited the chances are she has too and she might offer to give you a bit of her inheritance if she's ok ATM.

redhotsilly · Today 12:56

BlackRowan · Today 12:12

The issue with UC is that unfortunately it now has become something that disincentivises people to increase their qualifications and earn more. Plus there is often at attitude “why should I work more and try to earn more when I can spend time at home with children and get by with a UC top up”. And usual British attitude (different from quite a few other countries) that striving for more is somehow unbecoming.

Benefits have changed from safety net to an income top up and it’s a vicious circle- as it’s increasingly unaffordable and then it means it is unaffordable to raise public sector salaries because there is just less money coming in. You know that not only public sector people have UC top up right?plenty of people work part time in private sector and get it too.

so I personally would prefer that public sector workers were properly paid (my view of usefulness of TAs in every classroom aside) so they wouldn’t need a top up, and that private sector part timers weren’t entitled to it, unless they really needed it as a real safety net.

Agreed.

Many posters have been rather flippant about 12k being nothing, petty cash etc, I suppose they must be loaded.

I have never in my life been given 12k as a lump sum so to me that's a lot of money and I wouldn't buy a kitchen with that as some have suggested 😂My kitchen is from Ikea and was around 5k bought on interest free loan and self installed.

The key thing here is not really the money but how frustrated OP feels about not being able to freely decide over her inheritance from her lovely Nanny. If she wasn't on UC, she could be independent of all that. As she already is a TA and her kid is 6 years old so in school, she can train as a teacher and have a better salary with good career prospects. It's always best to earn your own money if you are able to, otherwise you are beholden to rules and shackles you may not like.

Flyingcarpetintraining · Today 12:59

Lowlagal · Today 10:58

Very well said. Saved me typing out a response to that poster 😆

The term has the effect of implying that people on lower wages in education, nursing, elderly care, waste management and any number of other roles aren't 'net contributors'. Which would be incorrect, as what we get out is worth far more than what we put in, both in economic terms (in their enabling the function of our economy and society) and in terms of both maintaining decent living conditions and enabling future prosperity.

Absolutely this.

Point taken - sloppy wording on my behalf and I understand that people contribute in different ways that are important to society.

I still stand behind my opinion that it is unfair that someone can choose a less than full time work pattern, be topped up by the state but still expect to be able to keep any other cash they receive (disability and genuine caring responsibilities notwithstanding)

TheDenimPoet · Today 12:59

LakieLady · Today 11:18

It doesn't "work that way". UC is reduced when capital exceeds £6k and stops altogether when it reaches £16k.

I literally said in my post that it doesn't work that way. Then you quoted me to say it doesn't work that way. Which is what I said. But ok.

TheDenimPoet · Today 13:00

LilyBunch25 · Yesterday 23:46

Which is why the tariff deduction regulations exist. UC reduces as per those regulations. It has absolutely, categorically nothing to do with hoarding money. I'm a hard working tax payer myself whose profession happens to be in welfare benefits. I do not believe UC recipients should not be allowed any savings, and I believe the current regulations are completely fair.

Yes - but OP is trying to get around the current regulations isn't she.

pusskins06 · Today 13:17

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · Yesterday 23:35

Who is the executor? I wonder if you could reject the inheritance and ask for it to be passed over to your mother instead. Then I’d get my mother to set up an ISA for my child and get them to sling the 12k in there for them to use for a car or uni fees when they’re older.

Edited

I dont think you can reject an inheritance but you can do a "deed of variation" within 2 years of the death. I think this too would be seen as deprivation of capital though

Specialneedsnightmare · Today 13:25

So sorry you've got upset by some horrible people on here op. Unfortunately many people lash out as soon as benefits and inheritance are used in the same sentence and don't actually read any of the posts properly.

You will still get uc as long as your savings are below 16k. You will get a reduced amount but it's not a horrific reduction.

Just be transparent with dwp all the way and it will be fine. I would personally stay in your council house but your choice.

I think it's wise to pay off debts and then see what your situation is.

I feel for you as sadly once you're claiming any sort of benefit your money is no longer your own and inheritance can cause a lot of problems if it isn't isn't life changing amount.

All the best op.

Bogstandardname · Today 13:31

Parcelpass · Today 08:36

OP is in a job..... she works.

But still needs tax payers money. Now,until her inheritance runs out, she doesn't need it. When it runs out, she can doubtless get more State support.

ILoveAGingerCat · Today 13:44

LakieLady · Today 11:34

That's especially the case in areas where housing is expensive. Average rent for a 2- or 3-bed property where I live is £1,800 a month, which is almost a month's net pay for someone on the average salary for the area.

Someone I know is a nursing sister, and a single parent of 3. She's on a decent salary and is still entitled to UC, simply because her rent is so high. If she was in social housing, she wouldn't be eligible for any help, because her rent would be so much lower.

Same here. I live in a middle class village, but my closest town that's 5 miles away, is firmly working class, (with many minimum pay workers.) Yet even just last week, someone advertised a new build for rent - semi detached 3 bed house that you could swing a cat around in... 2 bedrooms were 7 X 9 feet and 7 X 10 feet in size, there was hardly any storage, and one parking space for a front garden. Back garden was about 20 feet wide and 16 feet long.

They wanted £1550 a month rent for it.

Many people who work in shops and stores, and on market stalls, and as carers, and at schools and for the NHS, barely make this money per month! How the F is anyone meant to afford that?! This is in a working class market town, not London or Brighton or Oxford or Cambridge! Or in the city centre in Liverpool or Manchester or Shrewsbury! It's a small-ish, working class market town!!!

There were 100s of posts on the Facebook page it was advertised on expressing disgust at the rent. NO-ONE expressed any interest in it! One person said 'yeah I know what will happen, no-one will take this up and it will be let out via the council, and half a dozen asylum seekers will be kept there at the taxpayers expense, and they'll make the excuse that they had to do that because no-one was coming forward to rent it!!!'

I am willing to bet that the benefit bashers attacking a single mum who works but earns minimum pay, and has to claim universal credit to top it up (and pretty much attacking anyone on benefits) would not give a SHIT if half a dozen asylum seekers were housed in this house 'at the taxpayers expense.'

Overwhelmedandtired · Today 13:48

OP, I would try to ignore those grandstanding with their righteous ideas of how you need to immediately stop claiming benefits. They obviously have no idea of what it is like to live hand to mouth for a long period of time.

Your aunt may well have had great intentions of you buying a property with the inheritance, but as you know you aren't currently in a position to do this. And the UC system isn't set up for those wanting to save their way out of it. You are in secure housing, you need to maximise that and possibly right to buy later, but no rush.

As others have said, I would recommend ensuring you leave around £5.5k in savings or cash ISA as an emergency fund and, or potentially towards house deposit in the future, ensuring you take out the interest so it doesn't sneak over £6k. I wouldn't do an investment for your daughter yet, from what I understand anything in her name can be counted towards your savings total. So you are better off retaining access until you no longer need UC, in case of emergency. It doesn't stop you gifting in the future from your name, but you need to prioritise now.

Use £2.5k to pay off your debt, this leaves you with £4k. Use £1k ish for a holiday (even if for next summer you can pay up front in full to ensure it is out of your name), and £3k to ensure you have good quality, long lasting furniture, white goods, and even things like shoes and coats for you both. To avoid the 'buy cheap buy twice' trap. This can save you money in the long term and hopefully make you feel more comfortable. You are allowed to have a better bed, better nights sleep, and claim benefits.

Using the money to just cover lost benefits in the short term saves the tax payer very little money in the short term, and is likely to cost more in the long term if its not helping you get into a stronger and more secure position.

If there is any chance of you starting some training in order to get a better paid job for the long term, try that too. The money being spent wisely is still an investment for you both, in quality of life and future prospects. It gives you a long term, more solid plan, of getting you established to not rely on benefits for the rest of your life.

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