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Help with my mum's pension statement

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DingyHall2026 · 05/08/2026 18:09

I'm trying to help my mum understand if she is getting the full basic state pension for someone her age.

She was born in Feb 1950 shh is on the old pension.

She was a homemaker for a number of years and also worked for a number of years. I believe she has this all registered so hasn't got outstanding HRP due.

She was home 1978 until 1994

I don't have it at my fingertips but I think she worked 'enough' years after this to qualify fully.

What info do I need to give someone expert to understand if she's being full whack or not, and to further validate if she should be getting full?

I have her 2005 statement and can see
146.45 basic
7.67 pre 97
27.87 post 97
3.03 graduated retirement benefit
Total is 185.02

Help please!!

Many thanks

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pandora206 · 08/08/2026 19:56

If she has a pension through employment, was she in a job where she was 'contracted out' of the Additional State Pension?

Occupations where this occurred typically include: teachers, NHS and Local Government employees, others with defined benefit pensions and a few with private pensions.

In my case, I have well over the contributing years for full State Pension (actually about 43 in total) but do not receive the full amount due to having an occupational pension where I was contracted out.

Bjorkdidit · 09/08/2026 05:01

Can she use her pension details and something like a utility bill to access a Gov Gateway account? There's also another system now, Gov One?

Definitely look at pension credit, even if the actual award is small, its a gateway to other benefits so could be worth it.

But if you find she's short of NI contributions, you'd need to think carefully about whether it's worth it, ie she'd not want to have to live to 127 for it to be worth the investment. Also I don't know how far you can backdate now, I thought a window had closed?

P00hsticks · 09/08/2026 10:01

pandora206 · 08/08/2026 19:56

If she has a pension through employment, was she in a job where she was 'contracted out' of the Additional State Pension?

Occupations where this occurred typically include: teachers, NHS and Local Government employees, others with defined benefit pensions and a few with private pensions.

In my case, I have well over the contributing years for full State Pension (actually about 43 in total) but do not receive the full amount due to having an occupational pension where I was contracted out.

THat would only be the case if you fall under the new State Pension introduced in 2016, when the transitional rules introduced a deduction into the calculations to take account of people having been contracted out having paid a lower NI percentage, meaning that they might need more that the headline 35 years.

In general , no one lost out under these rules, as everyone was entitled to the higher of what they would have received under the old and new rules.

But this won't apply to the OP's mum, as she reached SPA prior to 2016.

DingyHall2026 · 27/08/2026 15:07

Kirschcherries · 06/08/2026 22:24

@DingyHall2026 I know this might be a sensitive question but has she ever been married? If so was she widowed?

Under the old pension rules she might be eligible to inherit a deceased spouse’s NI contributions for missing years.

Sorry about uber slow reply, wekt on holiday and forgot about this thread and helping my mum

She did marry someone who died, they were only married briefly, though they had been together for over a decade. I think he persuaded him to marry her by saying she'd get a widow's pension when he died - they married when he had weeks to live. A million reasons why they never married before including issues between him and myself / my siblings - he was her great love but was a shitbag to us.

Anyway, thanks for the info. Does it sound like she already has this pension?

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DingyHall2026 · 27/08/2026 15:08

orangehandles · 08/08/2026 19:44

Perhaps it might be time to start thinking about putting a Lasting Power of Attorney in place, should her faculties decline. It would be much easier to get this sorted out now.

Can't help with the pension entitlement, sorry.

Already done! Thanks, good idea though.

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RosesAndHellebores · 27/08/2026 15:19

If she has a few bits of.private pension, she may have been contrqcted out for aome periods and this may have reduced her qualifying years.

If she can't open a Government Gateway account, I believe she can write to DWP for a written record of her NI contributions/qualifying years.

Alternatively, she could pay a rwgistered independent financial adviser to do ot for her or seek advice from CAB.

If she has capacity, why are you having to do this for her?

P00hsticks · 27/08/2026 17:29

RosesAndHellebores · 27/08/2026 15:19

If she has a few bits of.private pension, she may have been contrqcted out for aome periods and this may have reduced her qualifying years.

If she can't open a Government Gateway account, I believe she can write to DWP for a written record of her NI contributions/qualifying years.

Alternatively, she could pay a rwgistered independent financial adviser to do ot for her or seek advice from CAB.

If she has capacity, why are you having to do this for her?

The contracting out affecting the number of years needed wouldn't be relevant in this case as the lady in question reached State Retirement Age before the introduction of the new State Pension in 2016....

Kirschcherries · 27/08/2026 18:35

DingyHall2026 · 27/08/2026 15:07

Sorry about uber slow reply, wekt on holiday and forgot about this thread and helping my mum

She did marry someone who died, they were only married briefly, though they had been together for over a decade. I think he persuaded him to marry her by saying she'd get a widow's pension when he died - they married when he had weeks to live. A million reasons why they never married before including issues between him and myself / my siblings - he was her great love but was a shitbag to us.

Anyway, thanks for the info. Does it sound like she already has this pension?

It’s highly unlikely a very short marriage would impact your Mum’s state pension.

TeaFizzy · 27/08/2026 19:50

Kirschcherries · 27/08/2026 18:35

It’s highly unlikely a very short marriage would impact your Mum’s state pension.

Length of marriage wouldn’t matter - the important thing is whether they were legally married at the time her husband died. It would be worth checking with the Pension Service, particularly if they would have both reached State Pension Age before 2016.

DingyHall2026 · 29/08/2026 17:13

RosesAndHellebores · 27/08/2026 15:19

If she has a few bits of.private pension, she may have been contrqcted out for aome periods and this may have reduced her qualifying years.

If she can't open a Government Gateway account, I believe she can write to DWP for a written record of her NI contributions/qualifying years.

Alternatively, she could pay a rwgistered independent financial adviser to do ot for her or seek advice from CAB.

If she has capacity, why are you having to do this for her?

She had capacity but she 76 and endless forms and reading all the different information is tiring and no fun for me. Or me, but I'm young and energetic and like helping my mum!

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DingyHall2026 · 29/08/2026 17:14

TeaFizzy · 27/08/2026 19:50

Length of marriage wouldn’t matter - the important thing is whether they were legally married at the time her husband died. It would be worth checking with the Pension Service, particularly if they would have both reached State Pension Age before 2016.

They were most definitely married, for 7 weeks I believe.

Would this hapoen automatically or would she need to register to claim this?

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