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Is the 'credit crunch' affecting your life?

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LyraSilvertongue · 18/06/2008 09:50

There's been so much in the news about the credit crunch, rising food, petrol and utility costs etc over the last few months.
But is it really affecting your life?
Personally I haven't seen much of a difference. I don't use the car that much and I buy lots of special offers in Sainsbury's the keep costs down.
Who's really been affected by the current state of the economy?

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Pruners · 18/06/2008 10:08

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PeachyWontLieToYou · 18/06/2008 10:09

food yesterday cost 3110 and that was with dh pulling treats out as fast as i put them in the trolley (I aked him to do that btw, and I do the same for gadgets / games)- we are a bizarre joint act

PeachyWontLieToYou · 18/06/2008 10:09

£110!

WideWebWitch · 18/06/2008 10:09

We're extremely lucky in that we wouldn't notice the odd couple of hundred quid increase in costs a month but yes, it does affect what we do:

  • we are ensuring we will have no debt at all by November (because it's sensible but also because we recognise that credit has dried up)
  • By then we will be able to manage on one salary if we have to (although I really hope we won't have to but as a contractor I don't always know where the next job is coming from)
  • After debts are paid stockpiling cash is our priority. I will be happier when we've got six months outgoings saved (no savings at all atm)
  • no way would we consider buying a house now, we are going to wait at least another year, which will also mean a higher deposit

I was thinking about it on the way home last night and there are lots of ways we could economise if we had to, we could get rid of a car, the cleaner, stop buying takeaways, stop eating out, stop buying magazines, all sorts. So far we don't have to but I'm not kidding myself that the state of the economy doesn't affect us, it very likely will in the coming years.

hoxtonchick · 18/06/2008 10:10

we can't sell our house.

LyraSilvertongue · 18/06/2008 10:11

So if there's any upside at all, I guess it will make us all a lot less wasteful.

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scorpio1 · 18/06/2008 10:12

Same here Peachy, just normal stuff too, including one packet of Pampers - they have gone up too, £6 now. (teeny baby size!!)

We are paying our credit cards off this week (£1000 all together) to just get rid of it.
DH is a self-employed builder, so again we are lucky he always has work, and as he gets sub-contracted by the council its good money, but i have stopped spending it on shite now and saving bits - for if and when the shit hits the fan.

MascaraOHara · 18/06/2008 10:13

It's not effecting me yet either but I am very aware that come winter I am going to be feel it! I am trying to gradually rein myself in now so that come winter I am out of my overdraft etc and in the best position I can be between now and then.

So far I'm confident that I'll be able to ride it out

wannaBe · 18/06/2008 10:14

food prices have definitely gone up.

But I don't think that negative equity is a real concern at the moment unless you have a 100% mortgage. House prices are falling but not dramatically as yet.

But there was an artacle in one of the more reputable papers recently saying that people were going into negative equity, and it then went on to say that "negative equity is when a house is worth less than you paid for it" er no, negative equity is when a house is worth less than you owe on it, which is entirely different.

ZoeC · 18/06/2008 10:14

Definately less wasteful, yes. I am much more conscious of not wasting food OR fuel. Am getting better at planning when I use the car so I combine doing 2 or 3 things that are in the similar area, sometimes putting off going to do one thing if I can combine the trip with going somewhere else as well at the same time.

Much less tempted to drive the school run now, even when it rains.

These are generally good things though I suppose and things I should have been doing before, now I am motivated to actually do it.

expatinscotland · 18/06/2008 10:15

it's only since the last gas bill of the winter that we've slipped into our overdraft and haven't been able to stay out of it.

sherby · 18/06/2008 10:16
  • Food costs have gone up, so I am really watching everything that goes into the trolley and all those silly little shops in the week
  • Parents have taken their house off the market, no viewings no hope of selling
  • Higher rates so we are making a real family effort to turn off everything we don't use and put more clothes on instead of reaching for the thermometer
cestlavie · 18/06/2008 10:18

Sadly, despite the high increases to date in food and fuel, most analysts think that we're unlikely to feel the full effect until 2009 for several reasons.

Firstly, existing inflationary pressures (on food and fuel) are here to stay for a while yet - they're driven by global factors (especially increasing demand in Asia) which the UK is largely powerless to do anything about in the short term.

Secondly, they're yet to fully feed through into other sectors - gas providers, for example, are affected by the cost of oil but the impact on gas prices takes a couple of quarters to have an effect; gas companies are now putting in place 40% price increases to reflect their higher costs which will come in through the next year. I'd imagine electricity providers will do the same.

Thirdly, given that people are generally on fixed term mortgages, a lot of people haven't actually been affected by the credit crunch yet (which only really started Q3 2007) - as people come to renew their mortgages over the next 18 months, that's when they'll find that either mortgage rates are much higher or they can't get a mortgage at all. This will also feed through into the rental market in terms of higher rents to meet the landlords' higher mortgage payments.

Fourthly, very very few people (so far) are in a meaningful negative equity position as house prices have only been sliding for the last 6 months after several years of sustained growth. If they continue to fall as predicted, and credit availability continues to be limited, then negative equity will become much more meaningful much more quickly.

Fifthly, unemployment remains very low by historical standards. It's going to go up, especially in the sectors which are being directly affected (e.g. construction). To cap off an already shit situation, more and more people are going to find themselves out of work.

It's pretty scary, especially how it's affecting the essentials (food, fuel and housing). On the plus side, if you care to see it, it's probably not going to be as bad as everyone fears, i.e. like the 1970s. Inflation is higher than expected at 4% this year, but it's still a drop in the ocean compared with the 25% back then (it's also lower than in other countries). Ditto interest rates which absolutely wiped out the housing market last time - currently 6% vs. 15%+ last time. Plus in the absence of heavily unionised industries, there's unlikely to be a repeat of the wage/ price spiral which sent inflation through the roof.

Personally, I'm trying to get all credit cards paid off as quickly as possible as those rates will be definitely going up and will also see what the deal is on refinancing any outstanding balances (e.g. with lower cost bank loans). I'm also having a look around to see who's doing the best deals on gas/ electricity and seeing if I can lock in any prices - even if I get a bit screwed on the margin, at least I can budget around a known cost rather than get exposed too much.

Remotew · 18/06/2008 10:18

Not worried about house prices as have a small mortgage and if I wanted to move its all relative. Noticed food prices are rocketing and am always shocked nowadays at the check out. Wages are not rising and starting to worry about making ends meet.

RosaLuxembunting · 18/06/2008 10:20

DH is self-employed and normally has more work than he can cope with, but this month is very quiet and we are worried it is the start of a trend.
We have just been going through our bank statements and reckon we need to decrease our outgoings by 20%. We booked an expensive family holiday for August - our first ever - and are now gritting our teeth and determined to enjoy it as it will be our last for some time.
I had got used to not having to count every penny, but here goes again. We don't use the car much but heating will be the big problem this winter - we have been quite profligate so will just have to be more careful.

Oliveoil · 18/06/2008 10:23

not day to day tbh

food bills have gone up, same with petrol and our electricity dd went up from £33 to £53 so I am assuming our gas will

but we do not have debts and could absorb most increases

but our house is on the market and under offer and every day I think our buyer will pull out due to news reports day in day out of house price drops

which will mean we can't emigrate and I am chomping at the bit to leave this godforsaken dump

so moneywise we are ok, housing market not

jelliebelly · 18/06/2008 10:24

We are lucky that we have reasonable disposable income to cushion increases in everyday things but our mortgage has stayed at the same rate despite recent base rate reductions then this week we got a letter telling us that it had gone up by 0.25% just because the bank felt like it

PeachyWontLieToYou · 18/06/2008 10:27

we had the gas statement yesterday- payments raised £25 pcm. Part of that is a recent cold snap and a baby, but yeeesh

Oliveoil · 18/06/2008 10:27

what does annoy me is Barclaycard offering me a £25K loan every week "for those fun things in life" and upping my cc limit by £3K when I do not need it

madness

have you seen the price of cheese btw? feck me, it has rocketed. Ditto butter.

PeachyWontLieToYou · 18/06/2008 10:30

butter is 26% rise here apparently

Botbot · 18/06/2008 10:30

We wanted to try and move house this summer to go from a 2-bedroom to 3-bedroom place, with a view to having another baby. We're too nervous to do that now.

Also, we've come off a fixed-rate mortgage so that has leapt up - there is no chance of finding a mortgage at the same rate we've just come off.

And dd's nursery costs have just gone up - they are blaming increased fuel costs.

So we are feeling very pinched, and the possibility of having another baby is starting to slip away - our flat is tiny and we just don't have room for another one. I'm not getting any younger either.

So yes, I feel affected by the credit crunch.

PeachyWontLieToYou · 18/06/2008 10:33

hotbot, if you really want another baby you will find a way, its one of the few things in life worth just gping for because you will cope- a cot in your room is fine for a good while anyway

LyraSilvertongue · 18/06/2008 10:33

I'm £100 off paying off my credit card. The other two have zero balances. I've been careful not to use them to buy stuff I don't need. The credit card company keeps writing to me, urging me to spend more though and even extended the interest-free period to encourage me

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Oliveoil · 18/06/2008 10:34

botbot - my parents had 3 under 5 with not a pot to piss in

a baby will not care if it is in a 2 bed flat or a mansion

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LyraSilvertongue · 18/06/2008 10:35

Same here Botbot. Ours has gone from 4.19% to 6%.

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