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Occupational pension starting. When is it best to close my Universal Credit claim and how? Council Tax Support too please?

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MissMarplesGarden · 09/10/2025 21:01

I had to give up work some years ago to provide 24/7 care for my severely disabled child, now a young adult. I receive Universal Credit of the standard allowance and carer and housing elements, (plus Carer's Allowance separately). I am about to start receiving an occupational pension and lump sum from my past job and would be glad of advice on when best and how to close my UC claim. The pension and lump sum isn't a lot but they will just take me out of being entitled to UC. I will still be entitled to Carer's Allowance (paid weekly) as I am still providing 24/7 care.

I'm very glad to be able to come off UC and be self supporting again. I've been grateful of the UC of course but it hasn't been a good experience or feeling. I'm not going to be much better off at all and will also have to pay all the rent in future from my occupational pension so things will still be tight, especially as I will also lose Council Tax Support and the CT I have to pay will suddenly shoot up. I'm a long-divorced sole parent. I think I'll also lose eligibility and help with NHS costs, social tariffs for broadband, warm home discount and so on. I'm not sure if I will be worse off actually after everything like that is taken in to consideration.

  • My last UC assessment period was 5/9-4/10/25.
  • I get that UC payment 10/10/25 (a day early as 11/10/25 falls on a Saturday)
  • I'm told I'll receive the pension lump sum on 13/10/25
  • I'm told I'll receive my first pension payment on 31/10/25 then monthly after that.
  • My next UC assessment period is 5/10-4/11/25.
  • I currently pay the contribution to Council Tax monthly by Direct Debit.

Is there anything else I need to know or do? It is all new to me and quite a big change.

Many thanks in advance.

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PrincessC0nsuelaBananaHammock · 09/10/2025 21:08

Are you sure you'll be over the threshold for UC? You can have £16000 before you're not entitled, they just reduce your payments.

MissMarplesGarden · 09/10/2025 21:19

PrincessC0nsuelaBananaHammock · 09/10/2025 21:08

Are you sure you'll be over the threshold for UC? You can have £16000 before you're not entitled, they just reduce your payments.

I did one of the online calculations - Turn2Us I think. They are just over, both the pension and lump sum. I've got to save every penny of the lump sum for something major, essential and important in a few month's time but I understand it will be classed as capital until then.

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Lougle · 09/10/2025 21:57

MissMarplesGarden · 09/10/2025 21:19

I did one of the online calculations - Turn2Us I think. They are just over, both the pension and lump sum. I've got to save every penny of the lump sum for something major, essential and important in a few month's time but I understand it will be classed as capital until then.

You can keep your claim open for up to 6 months with a £0 award, so if you spend the money on something essential in that time, your capital will come below the limit and payments will resume, as long as your pension payments are under the threshold.

Bromptotoo · 10/10/2025 01:20

If the capital, combined with what savings you already have takes you over £16,000 then you cease to be eligible when you receive it.

You're still eligible in the AP ending 4 October and are entitled to the payment due on 10 October.

Let UC know via a Journal message when you get the lump sum.

As @Lougle says you may be able to keep the claim open or do a 'rapid reclaim' if you become eligible again in short order.

Thistooshallpsss · 10/10/2025 01:27

You may find you are still entitled to some council tax reduction particularly after you have used your capital each council has its own rules so worth looking into

Thistooshallpsss · 10/10/2025 01:30

Also depending on your child’s disability there’s an exemption from council tax for severe mental impairment it’s a different allowance than council tax reduction if you’re not getting this it might be worth looking into

MissMarplesGarden · 10/10/2025 10:24

Lougle · 09/10/2025 21:57

You can keep your claim open for up to 6 months with a £0 award, so if you spend the money on something essential in that time, your capital will come below the limit and payments will resume, as long as your pension payments are under the threshold.

Thanks. I didn't know about the 6 months thing. From the online calculator it looks like my pension will be just over the threshold though, even after the capital has had to be spent.

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Lougle · 10/10/2025 10:34

Thistooshallpsss · 10/10/2025 01:30

Also depending on your child’s disability there’s an exemption from council tax for severe mental impairment it’s a different allowance than council tax reduction if you’re not getting this it might be worth looking into

This is a good point. We only pay 50% council tax right now because DD1 has a SMI certificate, DD2 is a full time student, and DH and I are both carers for them. So none of us 'count' as adults.

Lougle · 10/10/2025 10:34

MissMarplesGarden · 10/10/2025 10:24

Thanks. I didn't know about the 6 months thing. From the online calculator it looks like my pension will be just over the threshold though, even after the capital has had to be spent.

Have you double checked that you're taking the maximum lump sum and minimum monthly payment you can take?

MissMarplesGarden · 10/10/2025 11:02

Bromptotoo · 10/10/2025 01:20

If the capital, combined with what savings you already have takes you over £16,000 then you cease to be eligible when you receive it.

You're still eligible in the AP ending 4 October and are entitled to the payment due on 10 October.

Let UC know via a Journal message when you get the lump sum.

As @Lougle says you may be able to keep the claim open or do a 'rapid reclaim' if you become eligible again in short order.

Thanks. Am I right in thinking that I won't be entitled to anything for the week from 5/10 until 12/10? That is the first part of the current AP before I receive the lump sum. I wondered if I ended the UC the day before I get the lump sum whether UC would still pay me for that week? I suspect not but it is hard to lose a week's income, especially when I won't get a pension payment until 31/10, that pension isn't much and every penny of the lump sum will be needed.

I feel a bit torn about the idea of keeping the claim open for 6 months. I have been really looking forward to the feeling of being able to close it and to the return to financial independence and privacy even though the pension is small. It looks like the lump sum will be needed for the essential by about the 6 months point, but would there be any reason to keep the claim open if at that point the monthly pension still takes me just over the limit? I assume I will lose the entitlement to things like NHS help and social tariffs that being on UC brings if the award is zero rather than even just £1? The only reason I can think of is if we had to move and/or the rent went up massively during the 6 months? It would certainly be good to not have to go through the whole new claim experience again if that happened.

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MissMarplesGarden · 10/10/2025 11:08

Thistooshallpsss · 10/10/2025 01:27

You may find you are still entitled to some council tax reduction particularly after you have used your capital each council has its own rules so worth looking into

Thanks. I am dreading the big Council Tax increase the most I think, but will remember to check again with them thanks in the future once the lump sum has gone.

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MissMarplesGarden · 10/10/2025 11:16

Lougle · 10/10/2025 10:34

This is a good point. We only pay 50% council tax right now because DD1 has a SMI certificate, DD2 is a full time student, and DH and I are both carers for them. So none of us 'count' as adults.

Yes thanks I do get the SMI discount already which is a great help of course but there will still be the rest to pay once the CT support stops. It will be about 12 times more than I pay now.

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MissMarplesGarden · 10/10/2025 11:29

Lougle · 10/10/2025 10:34

Have you double checked that you're taking the maximum lump sum and minimum monthly payment you can take?

Yes definitely, thanks. I didn't want to take a reduced pension obviously as I knew it would give me less to live on (and I wasn't even thinking about UC income limits at that point). It was that I knew I needed to take the maximum lump sum possible (which still isn't enough, so somehow I've got to do some hard saving over the next 6 months. Really not sure how I'm going to achieve that as a 24/7 carer on a small pension with increased bills).

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Bromptotoo · 10/10/2025 12:02

@MissMarplesGarden one of the characteristics of UC, said to be to keep it simple with clear 'red lines' is that any change in an AP applies for the whole of that AP. If you move or have a child and let UC know on the last day changes will apply retrospectively back to day #1 in the AP.

If you receive money on 13-10 which puts you over the capital limit then you'll lose all title to UC effective 05-10 and payment for AP ending 4/10 will be your last.

Think that keeping the claim 'open' isn't much more than an admin thing. From UC's perspective, and that of some claimants, it makes life easier if/when you reclaim.

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