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Ex wants to take dc to america for 2 wks...pls advise me

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ebbie22 · 02/06/2008 21:16

Hi,my ex husband just told me that he wants to take dc{5 and 2}to america in the summer hols...Do i have any right to say no?
The former house has been sold but the money is held in an account due to court issues,hopefully this will be resolved in july...
What do i need to know if he does take our children away?
What happens if he doesnt bring them back home?
I know i am jumping the gun but just would like some advise pls xx

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ebbie22 · 03/06/2008 18:27

anyone?

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ebbie22 · 03/06/2008 18:27

anyone?

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nkf · 03/06/2008 18:29

Is he American? They're quite young aren't they? Do you suspect him of wanting to take them to the States permanently?

Bumping for you.

cocolepew · 03/06/2008 18:33

Do you have custody? If you are worried that he might keep them just say no.

ebbie22 · 03/06/2008 20:08

Thanks for replying,he lives in uk,and has familly in states so would be staying with them i think...
What is reasonable to ask if i do let them go?EH just says i need to know when..I said i wanted to know,
what for?
How long,dates to and from
contact numb etc..

I have the passports and am going away oct,i do worry whether he will give them bk,and what would happen if he stayed out there for longer?

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ebbie22 · 03/06/2008 20:10

The truth is,i dont trust him not to take dc and stay out there,but at the same time i want our kids to stay in contact with the relitives,and have a gd holiday with there dad....
Still havent heard anymore info though since sunday..i just dont know what to think..

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rosie999 · 03/06/2008 20:19

Hi

My ex took me to court a couple of years ago without me even knowing ( i didn.t find out until 3 days later) As it was I didn't even have a passport for him and wasn't taking him. but my holiday for the following august was bought up in the next custody court case and even though he didn't want me to take him, he had no choice but to accept it. I don't know what i would ever do if he wanted to take him out of the country - i don't trust the weekend let alone 2 weeks..

Surfermum · 03/06/2008 20:37

Maybe he just wants to take his children on holiday?

Have you any reason to believe he wouldn't bring them back? I must say it was the reason dh's x gave him when she refused to let him take dsd on holiday abroad. It was completely ridiculous. We had jobs, careers, a mortgage, family, friends, a life here. We just wanted to have a holiday.

As for what you need to know ... what dates he wants to take them and return them on, where they'll be staying and a contact number while they are there if he won't be contactable on his mobile are the basics. Maybe flight details too.

Think about if you took them abroad and what you feel he would need to know - then apply it in reverse!

ebbie22 · 03/06/2008 21:32

thanks again for replys...
I dont trust eh not to bring them back,
He doesnt have much going for him now i have the kids,,so he has told others..But i cant believe he would take the kids away without returning them...

Id love the kids to have a holiday with him but 2 wks is a long time...and it is so far away if anything went wrong...
The split wasnt/isnt very amical but that shouldnt rule my descion on how much the kids spend time with him...

AT the end of last year i asked him to let me know when he wanted the children for hols etc,he said will get back to you april when i get my holiday...told me sunday,so is a bit of a shock still...

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cocolepew · 03/06/2008 22:16

They seem quite young, maybe 2 weeks without you might be too much, do they see him regularly? Would it be possible for you to go and stay in a hotel with the girls near his family? If you really don't trust him I would seek legal advice.

Catz · 03/06/2008 22:21

Do you have a residence order or is the arrangements informal?

If there is a residence order then he needs your written permission to take them out of the country (or a court order) - s13 Children Act 1989

MrsThierryHenry · 03/06/2008 22:22

What a worry, I really hope your worst fears are not realised.

If he doesn't bring them back apparently you do have international rights under the Warsaw Convention. I'm sure the USA will have signed up to this, it means that if a parent 'abducts' their own child to a country which has signed up, the law obliges them to return the child to their 'home' parent and then, presumably, go through the courts in that country. I don't know what section of the convention you should look at, but try googling 'parental abduction'.

ebbie22 · 04/06/2008 22:17

Thanks for your advice guys,had appoint to see my sol today and asked for some advice...As i have the passports i am in a better position..ex husband has the children every other weekend,and bank hols if it falls on his weekend,he isnt very reliable any other way though and as we have issues with a court case regarding the money of former home i am wery of what ex h has up his sleave,on the other hand i want our children to have a better relationship with him then if we had of stayed in the house altogether....
My ex isnt a bad man,but i know i couldnt just see my children everyother wkend...
It doesnt help that he doesnt talk things thru with me,my dd banged her head on his wkend,didnt say a word to me,only after dd complained of feeling funny that i texted him has she banged her head,2 hours later got a text to say yes..not is she ok etc...
In my heart i hope everything is ok but i have this feeling that something is just not quite right...

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BetsyBoop · 05/06/2008 09:22

Perhaps a compromise of a week away? - 2wks is a long time, for a 2yo especially, for them to be away from their Mum.

As well as the other stuff mentioned I'd ask for confirmation that they would have adequate travel insurance, just in case...

ebbie22 · 09/06/2008 14:20

thanks bb,didnt even enter my mind about the travel insuarance,a wk on still heard nothing..Have been to see my solicter so not too worried but it is sad to think that we were grown up enough to have to beautiful children but cant sort out things that concern them the most...very upsetting..

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