Help pls

[pinkhairmum]

If my partner who doesn’t live with me offered to start paying me like half of my bills for the 3-4 nights he stays here cos it’s closer to work, would UC have a problem with this? He doesn’t live with me and we won’t for a while because there’s no room but he wants to pay his bit for the time he is here, is this an issue or not?

The issue is simply that the OP has had a change in circumstances which affect her financial situation, and as such it needs reporting to the DWP. They will then make the decision regarding the amount the OP is entitled to.

If he pays in cash, no-one will ever find out!

They don't care whether he pays or not. It's been said repeatedly. It's whether the DWP determine he is living there (and at half the week or more they probably would). That's all they need. Whether he contributes to the household is her problem. Whether the DWP think he should be (whether or not he is) is also her problem.

So she needs to tell them how often he's staying even if he is , in fact, a financial drain rather than additional income (presumably because it's expected that he would be contributing)?

Yes. It is possible (but probably highly unlikely) that they would take the view that this is all ok and it not affect her circumstances vis-a-vis benefits. I wouldn't be holding my breath on that though. If he were a "financial drain" then they would probably be wondering where she is getting the money to support another adult!

Sorry only just found the thread, say if a DD bounced he’d offer to just pay it because if I’ve not been able to pay it then chances are I won’t when they attempt it again etc so just changes could be £100 could be £20

Ok well done you and your husband? My partner lives close and sometimes if he’s here and he’s got work in the morning he’ll stay over I’m closer to the motorway he uses than his parents house:/? And how can I prove it? Well, all of his stuff is there, his letters, car insurance are all registered to that address, but oh lord he wants to just help me out before Christmas because of my debts what an awful person he is

Literally no one has said he’s an awful person, or commented on his character at all.

He's living with you for half the week or more-yes, tell UC.

Issue is - partner lives with parents, I have child, we are not ready at the moment to live together, however he stays over maybe 3/4 nights a week depending on shift times etc, he said he wants to make a contribution towards what he uses because it means there’s an extra person here using gas electric etc whatever else is used, my question was, would this be an issue with UC, because he isn’t living here, he has offered to make a contribution, if this is an issue I’ll just tell him no but I could just use the money to put towards debts I need to pay off, barely a change of circumstances he doesn’t live here nothings changed, I’m still a single parent like I have been for the last 5 years.

It’s literally like 3 nights maybe 4 on the odd occasion

OP, you get UC because you have no other income, or a low enough income that you get a top up.
It isn't meant to be enough for a nice life, it's pretty much a subsistence level payment.

If he's living there half the time and giving you money, then you do have other income, which added to what you already get means you are not entitled to as much as you are receiving.

You can argue all you like with people on Mumsnet because you want it to be true, but if one of your neighbours reports you as living together, or the DWP decide to check your bank account and you are getting payments in that you haven't declared, you could be in a lot of trouble.

He isn’t a financial drain like it doesn’t make a difference him being here I still have to put £1000 of my £1200 wage on bills and then £150 and my UC on my debts, he just simply wanted to just help me out so I didn’t feel like crap on the lead up to Christmas and just offer to pay a bit towards the days he’s here

I’m arguing because everyone is making it out like I’m a c*nt for asking a question - oh my husband this oh we suffer because of this, I’m asking, if my partner started would it be an issue, he does not live here, he just wanted to help me out so I can try and clear a bit of debt before Christmas 🙃 but that’s fine if he can’t, but there’s no need for everyone to act like I’m a benefit scrounging nobhead

So pretty much half the week then if he's staying 3 or 4 nights. You can argue as much as you like about him not living there because his bills or whatever are still registered at his parents but he is with you half the time.

I don’t know what kinda weeks you have but that to me is not half of a week🤷‍♀️

Excellent. Ignore everything you have been told, because it seems that what you wanted is to do what you wanted to do. When you are in court / have your benefits stopped / are deeply in debt to the DWP and council, do remember that you were warned multiple times not to do this.

And at what point have I said I have done it? He offered and I wanted to see if it would cause an issue because Google didn’t give me a clear answer. What a weird bunch of judgemental arse people you lot are on here.

You do realise there are 7 days in a week? So 3-4 nights is… half a week

Yes, and to me 3 nights is not half, 4 id say is half, at best. And like I said, very occasionally it’s 4 nights, 95% of the time it’s 3, but it may as well be 0 because apparently anything more than that is him living with me lol

You asked a question and you were (mostly) given accurate non-judgemental answers. Then you came back and argued / attacked everyone because you wanted to do what you wanted to do. I fucking defended you when you were accused by a poster of being a scrounger. The problem here is that you want what you want. Why ask?

No, the problem is, everyone’s telling me my partner is living with me and he isn’t, because if he is where is he staying? Because it certainly isn’t with me, also, where was your comment on that because I can’t see everything on here it’s not showing me half of it.

You know that there are 7 days in a week, yes? So if he usually stays 3 nights with a four night some weeks that will average out at approx 3.5 days which is indeed half of a week. You can deny it and argue about it as much as you like. You have your bloke living with you for part of the week every week. If he is giving you money he is contributing to your household so of course it's a change in circumstances.

UC could easily see 3 nights as half the week, and really their opinion is the only one that matters if
you still want to get paid.

If you truly don’t think it would be wrong then feel free to contact them yourself.

I did google it and it said voluntary payments are fine and not seen as income, that’s why I came here because I was so conflicted and now I just feel like what’s the point in ever asking anything cos u just get shit for it and told you’re doing things you aren’t doing