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Adult disabled daycare travel class who pays

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Midsmum1 · 11/06/2025 17:51

Can anyone help that knows answers to this please or maybe experienced this.

Basically, my nephew has moderate learning disabilities. He has just turned 19. He is leaving education in July to go to a daycare sort of facility for adults with learning issues very similar to education not paid just a better setting for helping them learn around animals arts and crafts etc. This facility is a little bit away from where he lives he has a mobility car. His mum doesn’t drive. My nephew can’t drive because he’s too disabled and his dad can drive but can’t do the daycare driving him to and from because he’s at work. My nephew will have to claim his own universal credits and pip go directly to himself now as he’s 19 but my sister will have full care over the money because he doesn’t have the mental capacity. What happens with the cost or transportation to get him to the daycare facility because he has a mobility car does that rule out any transportation help or costs due to him having a mobility car is down to them to get him there? Or due to him still having low income, he could still get transportation a taxi or something? If you can’t get any help because of mobility car if the mobility car was sent back would he then be entitled to taxis? Obviously there’s no one to drive the car to get him to the daycare facility but taxi costs are looking about £60 a day and I think his income would be about £600 PIP and about £550 universal credit so obviously it doesn’t add up how we can pay for all of his Taxi because he wouldn’t have enough and he wouldn’t have no money for living costs as well as anyone gone through this and can help at all

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wizzywig · 11/06/2025 22:16

Aren't the family savings taken into account as it's adult social care?

Midsmum1 · 11/06/2025 22:18

Soontobe60 · 11/06/2025 19:28

But if it means the person the car is for is unable to get to their place of work / study without incurring excessive costs, then it’s absolutely NOT beneficial to the disabled person is it? Especially when it’s to the tune of £2k a month.

The car is at my sisters house and the dad comes and drives my nephew places when he isn’t working in the car, things like discos; holidays trips shopping etc but as he works full time he can’t drive him in the daytime

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businessflop25 · 11/06/2025 22:20

Does the Dad take the car to work? Could he employ an enabler to help him get to and from placement? If talk to social services to see if he could get some funded enabling to facilitate him getting to placement. They could then drive him there and back. Dad shouldn’t be taking the mobility car to work. If he does he needs to sorry alternative transport

Midsmum1 · 11/06/2025 22:21

Overthebow · 11/06/2025 19:41

Whats The use of the mobility to car if he can’t drive it and he’s got no one to drive him? Isn’t the obvious thing to get rid of the car and the his PIP money would increase?

But your clearly only seeing that he can’t be driven to day centre but there are evenings and weekends that he has to be taken places too.

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Midsmum1 · 11/06/2025 22:23

businessflop25 · 11/06/2025 22:20

Does the Dad take the car to work? Could he employ an enabler to help him get to and from placement? If talk to social services to see if he could get some funded enabling to facilitate him getting to placement. They could then drive him there and back. Dad shouldn’t be taking the mobility car to work. If he does he needs to sorry alternative transport

Car is at my sisters till the dad is needed for driving so car is sat in the day time . But even sending mobility car back it gains maybe £250 a month which is a tiny dent in £2000 isn’t it

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perpetualplatespinning · 11/06/2025 22:28

Sorry @Midsmum1, the part of my post about UC was to caringcarer.

The parents’ savings aren’t considered. If DN has any, they would be considered as part of the financial assessment for social care support.

Nightshadesdown · 11/06/2025 22:31

No I don't think you can claim for travel costs whilst also claiming for a mobility car.

Does it have to be this placement- are there any alternatives that could be considered? Does it have to be everything - could this keep cost down.

Nightshadesdown · 11/06/2025 22:31

Every day

weirdwalking · 11/06/2025 22:33

£2k a month is £24k a year. This would come out of the LA social care budget. Good luck getting that agreed.

businessflop25 · 11/06/2025 22:35

Midsmum1 · 11/06/2025 22:23

Car is at my sisters till the dad is needed for driving so car is sat in the day time . But even sending mobility car back it gains maybe £250 a month which is a tiny dent in £2000 isn’t it

I’m not suggesting he send the car back! Just employing an enabler to drive it.

Nannydoodles · 11/06/2025 22:47

Could sister learn to drive? I realise it wouldn’t be an immediate solution but could help long term.

caringcarer · 11/06/2025 23:07

Oftenaddled · 11/06/2025 18:07

Can his PIP pay someone to drive him there in his car? Personal assistant jobs of a few hours a week often involve driving around here.

This sounds like his best option.

heavenisaplaceonearth · 11/06/2025 23:16

I think an enabler to drive him is probably the way to go. Have his needs been assessed by social services?

Midsmum1 · 12/06/2025 07:19

wizzywig · 11/06/2025 22:16

Aren't the family savings taken into account as it's adult social care?

not sure, but they don’t have anym

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Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 12/06/2025 07:23

The motability car is for the disabled person to use.

BoobsOnTheMoon · 12/06/2025 07:25

Does he not have an EHCP? I'd be very surprised if he doesn't, it sounds like he has been in a special school until now and they are generally only accessible to those with an EHCP.

It's a really important thing to establish.

KeineBedeutung · 12/06/2025 07:32

Misfiteverywhere · 11/06/2025 18:15

I presume the dad who’s at work. Motability might be the only way the family can afford a car. It’s not for the sole use of the person with disabilities.

It's not for the non-disabled person to get to work, leaving the disabled person stuck, either though!

Poynsettia · 12/06/2025 07:41

Are there any volunteer services available -like people who ferry people to hospital appointments?

Neurodiversitydoctor · 12/06/2025 07:42

Midsmum1 · 11/06/2025 22:18

The car is at my sisters house and the dad comes and drives my nephew places when he isn’t working in the car, things like discos; holidays trips shopping etc but as he works full time he can’t drive him in the daytime

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Could your sister learn to drive ? this would be cost effective eventually. Or yes find someone else to drive the car, could even use the trip back as driving practice for her. How far away is the placement ?

HollyBerryz · 12/06/2025 10:58

caringcarer · 11/06/2025 20:22

LA have duty to provide transport for DC up to 16. After that they have to pay themselves. I know this because my former Foster son who is 18 and we now care for under Shared Lives Scheme, has learning disabilities and we have had to drive him 20 miles to his college everyday and drive home then drive back 20 miles to collect him then another 20 miles home again. So 80 miles every day. Foster son owns the disability car and is supposed to pay us for fuel to get himself for college but he can't afford it as he only gets £316.98 UC as he's under 25. He gets PIP which he uses to buy himself toiletries and clothing and an occasional trip out. He gets housing benefit which he pays us for his room. We use our own car for driving everywhere else except use FS car for driving him around. We pay for fuel to drive former foster son to his college.

They still have duties after 16. 16-18 parents often have to contribute towards the costs but after it can be free again for those with send. I'd suggest getting more advice on this as I don't think you should be paying his travel costs.

https://www.ipsea.org.uk/young-people-aged-16-to-19

https://www.ipsea.org.uk/young-people-aged-19-and-over

Transport: Young people aged 19 and over

When considering adult learners, the LA must make “'such arrangements for the provision of transport, as they consider necessary”

https://www.ipsea.org.uk/young-people-aged-19-and-over

Twelftytwo · 12/06/2025 11:26

Aren't the family savings taken into account as it's adult social care?

No of course not.
The individuals own savings only

RareGoalsVerge · 12/06/2025 11:35

Either his dad needs to rearrange his work hours to allow him to drive his son to daycare, or the motability car should be returned so that the money can actually be used to enable the disabled person to have the mobility services they need rather than benefiting the non-disabled dad. As a carer for a disabled person the dad is protected from discrimination and his employer is legally obliged to make reasonable adjustments to enable him to do what needs doing. Adjustments in working hours so that he can drop his son off at daycare, then arrive at work, leave in time to collect from daycare and wfh if necessary in the evening if that workday wasn't long enough is certainly a reasonable adjustment unless the dad is a chef/neurosurgeon or other kind of role that is intrinsically impossible to flex like this.

Midsmum1 · 12/06/2025 16:32

BoobsOnTheMoon · 12/06/2025 07:25

Does he not have an EHCP? I'd be very surprised if he doesn't, it sounds like he has been in a special school until now and they are generally only accessible to those with an EHCP.

It's a really important thing to establish.

Im
sure he will have as was staying in education till 25

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Midsmum1 · 12/06/2025 16:34

RareGoalsVerge · 12/06/2025 11:35

Either his dad needs to rearrange his work hours to allow him to drive his son to daycare, or the motability car should be returned so that the money can actually be used to enable the disabled person to have the mobility services they need rather than benefiting the non-disabled dad. As a carer for a disabled person the dad is protected from discrimination and his employer is legally obliged to make reasonable adjustments to enable him to do what needs doing. Adjustments in working hours so that he can drop his son off at daycare, then arrive at work, leave in time to collect from daycare and wfh if necessary in the evening if that workday wasn't long enough is certainly a reasonable adjustment unless the dad is a chef/neurosurgeon or other kind of role that is intrinsically impossible to flex like this.

Yes the car can be returned and they are looking into that but it still won’t touch the travel bill that’s the issue . Don’t get how it’s expected for disabled person to cover the costs when they have low income. The dad is a manager of a ex military company who helps find ex military workers find work as a civilian

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BoobsOnTheMoon · 12/06/2025 16:36

Midsmum1 · 12/06/2025 16:32

Im
sure he will have as was staying in education till 25

In that case the best course of action would be to get transport provided via his EHCP as being necessary as part of his provision. This is possible for young people above CSA but who still need to attend a place of education or training to meet their SEN. See here for more info - www.ipsea.org.uk/young-people-aged-19-and-over

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