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PREMIUM BONDS MARCH ONWARDS

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Blondeshavemorefun · 04/03/2025 11:32

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase - years ago you could buy £1 at a time.

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 4% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999 🙀🙀🙀🙀

But it has been steadily falling since, and of January 2025, the prize fund rate - the amount of the total fund paid out in prizes - is 4 per cent (www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/saving/article-14127405/Premium-Bonds-prize-fund-rate-cut-NS-deals-blow-savers.html)

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So anything over 3% in winnings is considered good.

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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ThisUniqueDreamer · 01/04/2025 07:48

LillyPJ · 01/04/2025 07:30

No. But the money you've got in there will be losing value due to inflation.

But then in some cases, there's no where else for the money to go.

I'm a higher rate taxpayer and I had the money in a high interest savings account. I only get £500 personal allowance.So once I deducted the tax of the interest I d earned it was barely 2% interest. Hoping to do at least as well as that.Or better on premium bonds and not have an annoying tax bill to deal with at the end of every year.

ScarlettSunset · 01/04/2025 08:06

I got excited for a bit. One of the big winners was in my county, with the exact same holding as me and the bonds were purchased in the same month. Sadly though the bond number wasn't mine.
At least I had a few moments of hope and excitement!

westisbest1982 · 01/04/2025 08:28

Not on the list as always, but looking at it does at least motivate me to get to FH, which could happen in the next couple of months.

Next stage of disappointment - the frequent evening checks later today in the blue app of a pending win!

ThisUniqueDreamer · 01/04/2025 08:38

How early can you check the blue app for wins?

Caterina99 · 01/04/2025 09:09

I always start off dreaming about the million, then I think ooh 100k down to 1k would be amazing. By tomorrow I’m just grateful if I get £25 and that’s it for another month!

MananaMananaPenelope · 01/04/2025 09:19

@Caterina99 …. Are you me 🤣. Mind you £25 does feel like an insult tbf.

I like PB for the same reasons as @ThisUniqueDreamer , scrambling about for a paltry interest rate and then paying 40% tax on it for my ‘emergency fund’ means that I can justify putting it in PB.

Neddevine · 01/04/2025 10:04

Hoping for more than £25 tomorrow! One more day to dream....Good luck everyone! 🙂

MintBiscuit65 · 01/04/2025 10:11

Nothing on the big winners list for me - not suprised though as have a tiny holding. Buzzing for the person in NE Scotland though that's won £25K on a £1 holding bought in 1969. I wonder if they even know! I'm hanging on for the cream app now - I'll be over the moon with £25!

Jins · 01/04/2025 10:25

I’m hoping for a decent win tomorrow as quite a lot will be coming out on 6th April.

doodles55 · 01/04/2025 10:26

Nothing here either in big win list
Good luck everyone for tomorrow 🤩

neverhappenedtopablopicasso · 01/04/2025 10:57

Thanks so much for this thread!

Newbie question - what's the difference between the "total value of holding" and "total value of bond" columns on the spreadsheet? I thought every bond was £1.

IrrationalPremiumBondFury · 01/04/2025 10:58

Bumcake · 31/03/2025 23:14

Would AM not come on 1st April, if the draw is on the first working day of the month? If so, I wonder if the lucky bugger will think they’re being pranked and shut the door on them.

The draw takes place earlier than that. AM comes the day before the first working day of the month. Can you imagine thinking someone in your life might have a laugh at your expense like that?! I don't think they'd be in my life if I thought that.

IrrationalPremiumBondFury · 01/04/2025 11:16

neverhappenedtopablopicasso · 01/04/2025 10:57

Thanks so much for this thread!

Newbie question - what's the difference between the "total value of holding" and "total value of bond" columns on the spreadsheet? I thought every bond was £1.

The holding column is how much you have got in bonds overall. The bond value column is the chunk of bonds the winning bond is contained within and the date is when that chunk of bonds was purchased. For example, if you bought £50k of bonds in one go then both columns would read £50k. If you bought your bonds at different times in chunks of, say, £40k, £5k, £4k and £1k, your holdings column would still be £50k. The bond value column would be the chunk of bonds the winning bond was bought within, for example the £1k chunk. Hope that makes sense!

Feelinglucky2025 · 01/04/2025 11:22

No big win for me this month (as expected really but it’s nice to hope). Now on to hoping for £25+ tonight.

FridayNight1975 · 01/04/2025 11:34

hello

i just downloaded the blue app and have a question for those that have won in the past.

where do you see ‘pending’ the night before? under the Transactions tab?

thanks!

Bumcake · 01/04/2025 11:48

IrrationalPremiumBondFury · 01/04/2025 10:58

The draw takes place earlier than that. AM comes the day before the first working day of the month. Can you imagine thinking someone in your life might have a laugh at your expense like that?! I don't think they'd be in my life if I thought that.

I always thought it was the first working day, which is what is says here:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/premium-bonds-prize-winners-checker-april-nsi-b2725079.html

AM would break the happy news today, and the rest of us find out via apps or whatever tomorrow.

Premium Bonds: April prize checker and date for this month’s draw

Everything you need to know about premium bonds

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/premium-bonds-prize-winners-checker-april-nsi-b2725079.html

Blondeshavemorefun · 01/04/2025 11:54

ThisUniqueDreamer · 01/04/2025 01:03

How can you tell if you're on the big winner's list

i find my county and check the total holdings against it

if the same as mine (never) then means hopefully won that amount

and you can check the pb numbers if match yours

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Whyherewego · 01/04/2025 12:18

£125 on FH, happy with that as I've won most months recently

Bimblesalong · 01/04/2025 12:19

Wondering if I can hold out to just after midnight tonight to check for any winnings / disappointment (probably!).

Feelinglucky2025 · 01/04/2025 12:21

FridayNight1975 · 01/04/2025 11:34

hello

i just downloaded the blue app and have a question for those that have won in the past.

where do you see ‘pending’ the night before? under the Transactions tab?

thanks!

This usually shows on the NS&I website rather than the app.

MananaMananaPenelope · 01/04/2025 12:30

MintBiscuit65 · 01/04/2025 10:11

Nothing on the big winners list for me - not suprised though as have a tiny holding. Buzzing for the person in NE Scotland though that's won £25K on a £1 holding bought in 1969. I wonder if they even know! I'm hanging on for the cream app now - I'll be over the moon with £25!

@MintBiscuit65 I had £2 from the ‘60s. A close neighbour in the village where my family lives bought each of me and my siblings £2 and put it in a present with a knitted baby blanket when we were born.

I eventually got round to amalgamating them into my bond account on 5th February this year!! They’d never been checked but my parents still live in our childhood home and the address was right - nil points/zero winnings.

FridayNight1975 · 01/04/2025 12:40

Feelinglucky2025 · 01/04/2025 12:21

This usually shows on the NS&I website rather than the app.

thanks!

SwedishEdith · 01/04/2025 12:43

Whyherewego · 01/04/2025 12:18

£125 on FH, happy with that as I've won most months recently

They'll be last month's prizes.

SwedishEdith · 01/04/2025 12:47

Can I suggest a change to your next new thread @Blondeshavemorefun? As a) so many people don't seem to read the info in the first post and b) it delays the thread loading, could you maybe just link to a previous thread in the first post instead? Ignore me if lots of people prefer the current format 😊

Whyherewego · 01/04/2025 12:49

SwedishEdith · 01/04/2025 12:43

They'll be last month's prizes.

Oh doh ! You are right silly me was excited too early

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