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PREMIUM BONDS MARCH ONWARDS

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Blondeshavemorefun · 04/03/2025 11:32

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase - years ago you could buy £1 at a time.

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 4% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999 🙀🙀🙀🙀

But it has been steadily falling since, and of January 2025, the prize fund rate - the amount of the total fund paid out in prizes - is 4 per cent (www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/saving/article-14127405/Premium-Bonds-prize-fund-rate-cut-NS-deals-blow-savers.html)

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So anything over 3% in winnings is considered good.

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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hellswelshy · 24/03/2025 18:22

Just checking in for the next draw 😁

springintoaction321 · 25/03/2025 09:10

@hellswelshy [waves]

me too.. Roll on Wednesday - and this time Ernie please give me a little prize - not bothered what it is. But I've drawn a big fat zero on last 2 draws despite having £30k plus in bonds. Someone with 'average' luck should supposedly win £75 per month Confusedwith that holding

Jumbojem · 25/03/2025 13:51

Can I join? I love PBs and I was really excited when my soon to be 18 son said he was going to buy some. Can I buy him some as a birthday gift? Need to look into it.
I had £5 Of PBs bought for me as a christening gift. Don't think they've ever won anything. Bought a few £k more in my 30s and then a few £k more a few years ago. No clue how much I hold in total but about £6k?
I love it when I win, my family all laugh at me as I have failed to get the app or set anything up so the first I know about a win is when a cheque arrives. Think the biggest single win I've had is £100, but had a £25 same month. Feel like I do so so considering, any wins I use as a treat that month so entirely frivolous, not reinvested like you sensible people!
OH has a holding too, think he has a lot more than me but he doesn't win that frequently.
I am going to investigate the app and try and buy some more bonds before month end. I have tried with the app before but seem to recall I had to ring up about something as there was a problem setting it up and to be honest at that point I decided I couldn't be bothered.

Blondeshavemorefun · 25/03/2025 15:26

GrimDamnFanjo · 23/03/2025 14:34

Is anyone a small business owner placing their tax into pbs until it's due?
I've read of this a few times on Mumsnet and just wondering if anyone is doing it on the thread?

Me. I do this

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JollyHostess101 · 25/03/2025 15:29

Here you all are!! I thought I’d lost you with the app update!!

Counting down the days until 2nd April!!

wheresmyshoe · 25/03/2025 21:00

Looking forward to seeing AM, the drive has been spruced up ready. Thank you for the method to work out return @Blondeshavemorefun I was a bit despondent but realised they’ve returned 3.93%

IrrationalPremiumBondFury · 26/03/2025 20:11

I think I'm getting old. Where did the first quarter of 2025 go?!

AM will have to take us as s/he finds us!

5 days to AM/last day to add PBs for next month
6 days to HVW list
7 days to full results on the apps and NS&I's website Prize checker page.

Good luck one and all.

Phase2 · 27/03/2025 06:52

@Jumbojem you might find it easier to start with the online account and set up all your security and then get the app. I remember it being a bit of a faff. There are two apps, I use the blue one to remind me how much is in there.

Lilly11a · 27/03/2025 07:04

Hello checking in for the monthly disappointment as only have 4.4k so usually zero out but I like seeing what others have won

MrsPerfect12 · 27/03/2025 07:16

I had a premium bond that I got when I was born (80's) somewhere. I have no idea of the value and it's never been checked to my knowledge. I should dig it out. Am I right in thinking it's valid forever?

Starryknightcloud · 27/03/2025 09:58

Just bought 1.75k of new bonds, thanks DHs bonus - he doesn't have a PB account so I'll look after it 😇so roll on May draw when they're valid.

Not long until the next draw!

IrrationalPremiumBondFury · 27/03/2025 10:48

MrsPerfect12 · 27/03/2025 07:16

I had a premium bond that I got when I was born (80's) somewhere. I have no idea of the value and it's never been checked to my knowledge. I should dig it out. Am I right in thinking it's valid forever?

Yes, people have PBs dating back to the start in 1957 and sometimes the older and small PBs do win. You can register for an online PB account with NS&I and the OP also includes details of how to write to them to see if you have won anything over the years. Do find it and let us know how you get on!

Happiestathome · 27/03/2025 11:17

Roll on next week. I’m trying to prepare myself for a blank, as it’s been a while, but I can’t help hoping for a lovely big win. 🤞

westisbest1982 · 27/03/2025 11:25

There’s speculation that later this year Rachel Reeves will reduce the cash ISA limit to £4K. She won’t also target PB’s as the government uses our money we hold, but I imagine that soon after the autumn budget is announced there will be a huge influx of people buying new or more PB’’s.

IrrationalPremiumBondFury · 27/03/2025 11:37

£4k would be an incredible drop from £20k @westisbest1982 . Hopefully she won't go that low, but who knows with some of the other - previously unthinkable - cuts she has recently announced.

MrsPerfect12 · 27/03/2025 11:55

IrrationalPremiumBondFury · 27/03/2025 10:48

Yes, people have PBs dating back to the start in 1957 and sometimes the older and small PBs do win. You can register for an online PB account with NS&I and the OP also includes details of how to write to them to see if you have won anything over the years. Do find it and let us know how you get on!

Thank you. I will be looking it out. I think purchasing some more could be a good shout also. Will look into it more.

Blondeshavemorefun · 27/03/2025 13:54

MrsPerfect12 · 27/03/2025 07:16

I had a premium bond that I got when I was born (80's) somewhere. I have no idea of the value and it's never been checked to my knowledge. I should dig it out. Am I right in thinking it's valid forever?

Yes. In my first post it says how to check old bonds

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Blondeshavemorefun · 27/03/2025 13:55

I can’t imagine they would drop to £4k from £20k

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Cowhen · 27/03/2025 21:12

I had a flutter of excitement when I saw an unexpected email from NS&I just now... It was the receipt for the £30 of bonds I bought EARLIER TODAY (slowly adding to DD's holdings). If I win big this month, I think I'll use the money to fix my brain. 😁

Good luck to everyone in the upcoming draw!

ThisUniqueDreamer · 27/03/2025 21:14

May I join?

I sunk £50,000 into premium bonds. I paid it in by 28 January. When would it become eligible. Which draw?

Starryknightcloud · 27/03/2025 22:34

ThisUniqueDreamer · 27/03/2025 21:14

May I join?

I sunk £50,000 into premium bonds. I paid it in by 28 January. When would it become eligible. Which draw?

March I think?

ThisUniqueDreamer · 27/03/2025 22:36

Starryknightcloud · 27/03/2025 22:34

March I think?

So they would have been eligible for the 2nd March draw?

westisbest1982 · 27/03/2025 22:42

ThisUniqueDreamer · 27/03/2025 22:36

So they would have been eligible for the 2nd March draw?

Yes, March. I take you didn’t win anything @ThisUniqueDreamer ?

ThisUniqueDreamer · 28/03/2025 00:03

westisbest1982 · 27/03/2025 22:42

Yes, March. I take you didn’t win anything @ThisUniqueDreamer ?

Nothing. I was a bit disappointed my first draw on FH got nothing.

Offredismysister · 28/03/2025 13:44

Checking in for the draw. This will probably be my last month on FH as I’m moving & will need to withdraw my stamp duty. Fingers crossed for us all.

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