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PREMIUM BONDS MARCH ONWARDS

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Blondeshavemorefun · 04/03/2025 11:32

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase - years ago you could buy £1 at a time.

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 4% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999 🙀🙀🙀🙀

But it has been steadily falling since, and of January 2025, the prize fund rate - the amount of the total fund paid out in prizes - is 4 per cent (www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/saving/article-14127405/Premium-Bonds-prize-fund-rate-cut-NS-deals-blow-savers.html)

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So anything over 3% in winnings is considered good.

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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QuantumPanic · 01/05/2025 08:27

Nothing for me on the big winners list. 😢 The dream is dead (again).

I should move my holdings out and into an ISA - the interest would definitely be more than what I'll earn from PB. But the allure of a possible big win is strong!

finespineline · 01/05/2025 08:29

Good luck 🍀 for tomorrow!!
I can't check that high rollers list because I have no idea what my area is listed under!!!!😳 so I can still hope for tomorrow!!

IrrationalPremiumBondFury · 01/05/2025 08:30

Phase2 · 01/05/2025 07:47

Checking in for the monthly disappointment! Not won anything for several months, and stopped checking the HV list.

I think MonthlyPBDisappointment might be my next new name! I soon stopped checking the HVW list too but have been tempted back into doing it for the last two months. I'm regretting that now, starting this sunny morning feeling disappointed and a bit gloomy! Ah well, there's always tomorrow...

Good luck to those still to check the list and to all of us for tomorrow! 🍀

ErnestClementine · 01/05/2025 08:31

Someone in my county with £2 more than me has won a big prize! So close yet so far having checked the bond numbers 😅

ScarlettSunset · 01/05/2025 08:52

ThursdayLastWeek · 01/05/2025 07:22

Not many winners from my area this month

Nor from mine. There's not usually many anyway but it felt really noticeable this month

mechanicalpencil · 01/05/2025 09:02

Not many from my area either.
Nothing for me on the list today, but hoping someone from here is on it!
Fingers crossed 🤞 for tomorrow everyone!

MintBiscuit65 · 01/05/2025 09:09

No luck here on the big list - my early retirement plans are on hold for yet another month! Wishing everyone the best of luck for tomorrow! By this stage, I'd always be happy with a cheeky £25.

Blondeshavemorefun · 01/05/2025 09:11

westisbest1982 · 01/05/2025 07:24

Someone in Wiltshire has won £1K with a £10 bond, which is the total value of their holding. They bought this in December 2021. I thought the minimum holdings you can have is £25?

Was just about to write this

not sure how they got £10 as says invested £10
min is £25. Has been for years

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Blondeshavemorefun · 01/05/2025 09:14

Nothing for me but twice I got excited as amount similar to mine won £10k but few pounds out ffs

tho also possibly my step grandson may have won £5k. Similar amount invested and bought at that time

will have to wait for all tomorrow but be amazing if he has

I know I’m not gonna win the million

be nice to win £25 + tomorrow

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Blondeshavemorefun · 01/05/2025 09:14

Few small amounts winning but so many £50k. Sighs. One day

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MintBiscuit65 · 01/05/2025 09:21

Fingers crossed for him @Blondeshavemorefun! And hear you on the 50K holding winners - one day!

westisbest1982 · 01/05/2025 09:39

IrrationalPremiumBondFury · 01/05/2025 07:59

I can't find that one?

It's almost at the end of the file.

Siouxtse1 · 01/05/2025 09:39

Nothing for me so far. I added to my bonds recently, this was the first draw where they were all eligible. I only started about 8 months ago and got a £50 prize in October and the same in November. Nothing since.

Both prizes were won from my initial batch. I'm still at under 20% of initial holdings though, so can't really complain. Fingers crossed for some good wins on this thread- even the little prizes soon add up.🙂

KateArnott · 01/05/2025 10:00

There’s someone in Sefton, who won £100,000 with £175 in PBs!

MCCN · 01/05/2025 10:13

JellyBeanSpring25 · 01/05/2025 00:34

A £2 bond bought in Merseyside January 1957 right when they started has won £10,000. Hope they are found!

I have a £2 bond dating back to about that time (sadly not the one that won) and was glad to see this on the list. The numbering system was different then and there have been some queries in the past over whether ERNIE can actually select these old bonds with strange numbers.

neverhappenedtopablopicasso · 01/05/2025 10:32

Rookie question: how come in the "date of purchase" column on the spreadsheet, there are some April 2025s? I wouldn't think they were eligible yet?

AllRevvedUpWithNoPlaceToGo · 01/05/2025 10:40

neverhappenedtopablopicasso · 01/05/2025 10:32

Rookie question: how come in the "date of purchase" column on the spreadsheet, there are some April 2025s? I wouldn't think they were eligible yet?

Would it be a reinvestment maybe from prizes?

ThisOldThang · 01/05/2025 11:13

LillyPJ · 01/05/2025 06:51

"can contribute up to £60,000" You can contribute that whether you pay tax on your income or not. I paid in a small amount to a pension for a few years when I wasn't a tax payer. Each year I paid in £2880 and then took out £3600. Some of what I took out was taxable but I'd only have to pay tax on it if my total income including the withdrawal was above the Personal Allowance. Whether I paid tax on it or not, I'd still gained.

I think you may have inadvertently broken the rules.

You're supposed to receive a rebate for the tax you've paid. If you don't earn enough to pay any tax, then you shouldn't receive any tax rebate.

Withdrawing money and contributing money within the same tax year is also (potentially) problematic. It can be seen as 'recycling' which isn't permitted. As you noted, you can end up better off due to the tax benefits. You are, however, allowed to pay money in and withdraw money to spend. You're just not allowed to withdraw money and then use that money for additional contributions.

There is a limit of £10k per year of contributions once you're retired to prevent recycling.

With regards to paying in money from a Premium Bonds win, the winnings are tax free, so you would have to tick the 'Gross Personal Contribution' option that isn't eligible for tax relief.

If you were still working, you would be better to increase your salary sacrifice (if available) to 100% of the allowed amount (which is less than 100% of your annual wage) and then live off the Premium Bonds winnings instead of your wages.

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CaveMum · 01/05/2025 11:21

Nothing for us on the HV list either. Hoping for better times tomorrow!

IDareSay · 01/05/2025 11:24

I'm afraid you are sharing incorrect information @ThisOldThang
@LillyPJ hasn't broken any rules.

On the 10k p.a. limit, this only applies "if you flexibly access money in a defined contribution or money purchase pension, the annual allowance drops to £10,000. This is known as the money purchase annual allowance (MPAA)."

https://www.litrg.org.uk/pensions/paying-pensions/tax-relief-pension-contributions/pension-contributions-tax-relief-limits

Anyone with no income can put £3600 into a pension each year; this helps those who have caring responsibilities in particular. You contribute £2880 net and the govt top it up to £3600.

"Even if you have no earnings, you can still pay in up to £3,600 a year to a pension – that’s £2,880 from you, with the taxman adding £720. You can do this for children too."

https://www.ajbell.co.uk/pensions/contributing-to-your-pension

Contributing to your pension | Thursday 01 May 2025

One of the biggest perks of pensions is earning tax relief on what you pay in - this is based on your earnings and how much tax you pay. So how much can you contribute to your pension?

https://www.ajbell.co.uk/pensions/contributing-to-your-pension

ThisOldThang · 01/05/2025 11:42

@IDareSay I wasn't aware of that option for people without an income.

👍

MindfulAndDemure · 01/05/2025 11:52

Blondeshavemorefun · 01/05/2025 09:11

Was just about to write this

not sure how they got £10 as says invested £10
min is £25. Has been for years

If they bought £100 of bonds at some point, then later withdraw £90, they would have £10 remaining in bonds.

Eaumyword · 01/05/2025 11:57

The usual - not on the big winner list!
Oh well, I feel lucky in life generally I suppose.
But it would be so amazing to be a big winner and get a few health niggles sorted privately, have some fabulous holidays, update the house a bit and treat family.

Netaporter · 01/05/2025 12:05

Blondeshavemorefun · 01/05/2025 09:11

Was just about to write this

not sure how they got £10 as says invested £10
min is £25. Has been for years

They used to be issued in £10 denominations. I have one bought for me by my nan in the early 80’s. I’m trying to track it down as we speak….

Jins · 01/05/2025 12:09

No big or medium wins here and hoping to match last months £250 but would be happy with anything.

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