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PREMIUM BONDS MARCH ONWARDS

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Blondeshavemorefun · 04/03/2025 11:32

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase - years ago you could buy £1 at a time.

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 4% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999 🙀🙀🙀🙀

But it has been steadily falling since, and of January 2025, the prize fund rate - the amount of the total fund paid out in prizes - is 4 per cent (www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/saving/article-14127405/Premium-Bonds-prize-fund-rate-cut-NS-deals-blow-savers.html)

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So anything over 3% in winnings is considered good.

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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Bumcake · 01/04/2025 17:01

Blondeshavemorefun · 01/04/2025 16:33

If you are a lucky winner though, NS&Iay that Agent Million visits you either 'in the afternoon or the evening before the first working day of the month, ahead of the news being published in the media'.

I can’t find that anywhere on their website, all google results indicate that the draw is on the first working day. Anyway, they’ve not called here so it’s moot really - for this month at least!

They're quite secretive about AM, I’d love to read a bit more about the logistics of how he / she works.

ThisUniqueDreamer · 01/04/2025 17:17

MananaMananaPenelope · 01/04/2025 17:00

I don't get anything @ThisUniqueDreamer , I seem to remember that you have to have it set to autoinvest to see it early.

Didn't set mind to auto invest because I have full holdings.

JollyHostess101 · 01/04/2025 17:22

Nothing for me on the high list…. Have a teething toddler full of cold so not sure I’ll see you all at 2 mins past midnight but looking forward to reading all the winnings tomorrow!

Good luck all!!

Negroany · 01/04/2025 17:27

I'm abroad at the moment and early start tomorrow so can't stay up to 1am (hour ahead here) so I'll have to remember to check the app when I wake up.

FishPie2 · 01/04/2025 17:28

Not feeling quite so excited today as I had to remove my late husband's full holding and last week gave the money to my son to re-invest so not in tomorrow's draw. (I get the winnings). He did win more than me so hopefully his luck has jumped over to me.

RockaLock · 01/04/2025 17:33

There are almost 6 million premium bond prizes given away each month.

Even with the best will in the world, I really don’t think that they would be able to draw all the prizes, check the results for any anomalies, upload all the results ready to show in the app and website prize checker, get the comms ready for the £1m and other high value winners, and get all the payments or reinvestments ready to go, if they did the draw actually on the first day of the month - not if they want to release results around the 1st/2nd, anyway.

I’d imagine they’d want a good few days to get everything done and triple checked so that they can then be ready to publish (high value) results on the first working day of the month and everything else at midnight that day. So to me it makes perfect sense that the draw would happen a few days before the end of the month.

NS&I do like to shroud the whole process in mystery, though, especially AM visits. But it has been reported in several news and magazine articles previously that AM visits the day before the first working day of the month. I think a PP on here did a FOI request as well which confirmed it(?)

But anyway. Good luck for everyone tonight/tomorrow! I’m having real difficulty sleeping at the moment so will probably be checking the app at one minute past midnight Grin

LillyPJ · 01/04/2025 17:47

MaybeMrs · 01/04/2025 15:07

£50 for me. Showing on the website under transactions.

Results not available until tomorrow.

DroopyTulips · 01/04/2025 17:53

LillyPJ · 01/04/2025 17:47

Results not available until tomorrow.

If you have the blue app, and have your prizes set to reinvest, you can sometimes see a pending transaction (or more!) from about this sort of time. they start with the big prizes and they gradually diminish. I've only see a reinvestment at about 10 to midnight - and it was for £50.

westisbest1982 · 01/04/2025 17:53

LillyPJ · 01/04/2025 17:47

Results not available until tomorrow.

They’re the results in the cream coloured app.

westisbest1982 · 01/04/2025 17:59

@RockaLock As well as the logistical reasons you listed, the travel for the AM’s has to be arranged. My guess is that there are several draws.

RubbishDay · 01/04/2025 18:34

I changed my address a couple of days ago so no idea if I would be listed under the old or new area. Good luck for tomorrow.

Sadtosaythis · 01/04/2025 19:27

I normally see small wins about 10pm. I won £500 last year and it was about this tiime of night when I could see it as pending on transactions.

Blondeshavemorefun · 01/04/2025 20:14

Hmmmm I’m a little confused

I keep reading the draw is at the beginning of the month regardless

but never a weekend

but has to be the first working day of the month so usually the 1st unless the 1st is a sat or sun and then will be the 2nd/3rd

it takes 20mins for the numbers to be drawn via Ernie

https://www.nsandi.com/get-to-know-us/about-premium-bonds

so if they do this say very early hours hours of the 1st or even at 8am by 8.20am all the winners are drawn and thus the 2 chosen AM for that month go and visit their millionaires which is afternoon /early evening - I guess so they can travel there

we then have the list at midnight of that same day on the 1st or the first working day of weekend so 2nd/3rd

and following day at midnight the app

so we might have all been a day too early for AM

THIS THEN MEANS FOR MAY

AM TUE 1st afternoon /evening
LIST WED 2nd at 00.01
APP THUR 3rd at 00.01

All about Premium Bonds

Looking for more information on Premium Bonds? Visit our site to learn all you need to know about the power behind ERNIE, our heritage and Premium Bonds today.

https://www.nsandi.com/get-to-know-us/about-premium-bonds

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MananaMananaPenelope · 01/04/2025 20:26

There are five AMs according to a Money Week article, who visits is based on their availability/workload.

Neddevine · 01/04/2025 20:27

@Blondeshavemorefun If AM visits on the first working day of the month, then the list of big winners couldn't be available at midnight..which it was this month (i.e last night/this morning).They must visit the day before or the list would be available before AM's visit. I think previous assumptions must be correct.

ScarlettSunset · 01/04/2025 20:27

I'm pretty sure Agent Million visits the millionaire winners prior to the big winners list being released.

Blondeshavemorefun · 01/04/2025 20:31

MananaMananaPenelope · 01/04/2025 20:26

There are five AMs according to a Money Week article, who visits is based on their availability/workload.

Yes I know.

I meant the 2 chosen for that month

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Neddevine · 01/04/2025 20:31

So for the May draw - AM visits on Wed 30th April, the big winners list is released at 12.01 am (approx)on Thurs 1st May and the App/Prize Checker is on Friday 2nd May.

MananaMananaPenelope · 01/04/2025 20:32

Interesting, but ambiguous!

It all sounds a bit James Bond esque. The question 'Who is AM'?

We keep their identities secret – this is important for the privacy of both our Agent Millions and our winners. Winning £1 million is life changing, so when Agent Million informs the winners, secrecy ensures that sharing this news is a choice for them.
Our Agent Millions are based in Lytham St Annes (in Lancashire), the home of Premium Bonds, so they do have to travel as well as spend the odd night away from home. Although they are sworn to secrecy about the role they perform, they may tell certain family members or loved ones about it for practical reasons. However, they must keep their role secret from friends and colleagues who do not need to know.

I might apply, sounds like fun!

How are Premium Bonds prize winners notified – and who is Agent Million?

As the April prize draw takes place, we look at how Premium Bonds winners are notified and how the winnings get paid. Plus, who is Agent Million?

https://moneyweek.com/personal-finance/savings/premium-bonds-agent-million

Blondeshavemorefun · 01/04/2025 20:33

Neddevine · 01/04/2025 20:27

@Blondeshavemorefun If AM visits on the first working day of the month, then the list of big winners couldn't be available at midnight..which it was this month (i.e last night/this morning).They must visit the day before or the list would be available before AM's visit. I think previous assumptions must be correct.

I know

head explodes

it’s impossible

sooooooo

the draw can’t be on the 1st day of the month can it

ahhhhhhhhh

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MananaMananaPenelope · 01/04/2025 20:34

Oh did you @Blondeshavemorefun , I don't think I've been paying attention 😂, that had escaped me. I'll be 😊if it is in your opening thread!!

sparkellie · 01/04/2025 20:34

Blondeshavemorefun · 01/04/2025 20:33

I know

head explodes

it’s impossible

sooooooo

the draw can’t be on the 1st day of the month can it

ahhhhhhhhh

Maybe they do a separate millionaire draw 2/3 days earlier, to give them time to do checks, arrange travel for visits etc?

Blondeshavemorefun · 01/04/2025 20:35

MananaMananaPenelope · 01/04/2025 20:34

Oh did you @Blondeshavemorefun , I don't think I've been paying attention 😂, that had escaped me. I'll be 😊if it is in your opening thread!!

No it doesn’t say there are 5

but it’s been mentioned a few times over the past few threads there are 5

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Blondeshavemorefun · 01/04/2025 20:38

sparkellie · 01/04/2025 20:34

Maybe they do a separate millionaire draw 2/3 days earlier, to give them time to do checks, arrange travel for visits etc?

I don’t know

ahhhhhhhh

but only takes 20mins for all the winners to be drawn by Ernie

it had to be drawn end of previous month

so all the articles saying it’s the first or the month must be wrong

as it’s impossible

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