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Can't make APCs, what can I do instead?

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MichaelsMarbles · 31/01/2025 09:10

I earn £12.5k. I am in a DB scheme, but I have only been in this job 2 years and I am over 50. I wanted to make APCs to buy extra pension but this has been refused because it would take me below minimum wage.

I have started a SIPP instead but can I pay in more than £2880 if I haven't paid any tax?

I would like to put my entire salary into a pension from now until retirement but is this even allowed?

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Mindymomo · 31/01/2025 09:37

Speak to the pension company. They will advise you, but I think it would be fine to put all your earnings into your pension. The £2,880 figure is for those who do not work, which isn’t the case with you as you do work,

MichaelsMarbles · 31/01/2025 09:59

Is this the company I have the SIPP with?

I spoke to my work pension scheme, and they won't let me pay anything extra in from salary.

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Mindymomo · 31/01/2025 10:19

MichaelsMarbles · 31/01/2025 09:59

Is this the company I have the SIPP with?

I spoke to my work pension scheme, and they won't let me pay anything extra in from salary.

Yes, Speak to the pension company direct, I am sure they can help you do want you want, by paying in directly yourself, or opening a new policy to make payments into.

Chuffles · 31/01/2025 12:42

Interesting question. I asked CharGPT on your behalf (assumed your DB work pension was 4% of your salary which I think is the norm for auto-enrolment). This was what ChatGPT said:

Since you are in a defined benefit (DB) pension scheme and contributing 4% of your £12,500 salary (£500 per year), your total pension contributions are relevant for tax relief purposes. However, your contributions to the DB scheme do not reduce the amount you can personally contribute to a Self-Invested Personal Pension (SIPP).

Maximum SIPP Contribution with Tax Relief
• Your total relevant earnings: £12,500
• Maximum gross personal contributions eligible for tax relief: £12,500
• Your DB scheme contributions (4%): £500 (these do not count against your personal limit)
• Therefore, your maximum personal SIPP contribution (gross): £12,500
• Since SIPPs receive 20% tax relief, you only need to pay in £10,000, and the government will add £2,500, bringing it up to £12,500

Key Points to Note:
1. Tax relief still applies: Even though you don’t pay income tax, you still receive the 20% basic rate tax relief on SIPP contributions up to your earnings limit (£12,500).
2. DB pension contributions don’t reduce your SIPP allowance: Your £500 DB contributions don’t count against your SIPP limit but do count toward your £60,000 annual allowance (which isn’t an issue here).
3. Total pension contributions:
DB Scheme (your 4%): £500
SIPP (your £10,000 + £2,500 tax relief): £12,500
Total pension savings per year: £13,000 (including employer contributions, which don’t affect your personal tax relief).

Can You Contribute More?

No—your total gross personal contributions (DB + SIPP) cannot exceed your £12,500 earnings. If you contribute more than this, the excess won’t receive tax relief and may need to be refunded.

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