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PREMIUM BONDS JAN 25 .........

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/01/2025 10:49

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase - years ago you could buy £1 at a time.

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 4% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999 🙀🙀🙀🙀

But it has been steadily falling since, and of January 2025, the prize fund rate - the amount of the total fund paid out in prizes - is 4 per cent (www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/saving/article-14127405/Premium-Bonds-prize-fund-rate-cut-NS-deals-blow-savers.html)

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So anything over 3% in winnings is considered good.

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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notsure75 · 04/02/2025 17:51

£50 on £16k for me, £1050 for DH on £41k. Very happy, biggest win for him so far.

Wrapunzel · 04/02/2025 19:39

Malbecfan · 04/02/2025 17:34

£100 on £32k. Got more going in the March draw.

However, I didn't realise until reading this thread that there was even an app. Is it worth getting?

I managed to lock myself out of the blue one instantly last night by entering my PIN incorrectly once and then it also blocked me from the website Blush so use with caution!

The cream one has results and the blue one has holdings but sometimes shows winnings earlier than midnight.

bananabug · 04/02/2025 19:43

£100 win on holdings of £1,500! My first win! Had my premium bonds since November.

Blondeshavemorefun · 04/02/2025 19:50

Malbecfan · 04/02/2025 17:34

£100 on £32k. Got more going in the March draw.

However, I didn't realise until reading this thread that there was even an app. Is it worth getting?

Yes def worth it

OP posts:
Malbecfan · 04/02/2025 19:56

Blondeshavemorefun · 04/02/2025 19:50

Yes def worth it

Which app? Blue or yellow? TIA

PrioritisePleasure24 · 04/02/2025 20:11

i have the prize checker and that’s worth it. Can check a win in seconds!

SaturdayKitchenSally · 04/02/2025 20:17

I’ve got both apps lol, one is just for prizes (cream) and the other one (blue) shows your bond holding as well as prize amount. My £200 today showed in the cream app first.

WhatShallIdo11 · 04/02/2025 20:34

1 x £100 1 x 50 on £33300 - ok with that after 2 months of nothing - will be going to FH in the next 3 months but wondering if better to put in an ISA as past year is under 4%

MercyChant66 · 04/02/2025 20:43

£75 on FH - the disappointment continues but I do appreciate it's better than nothing, marginally!

minny80 · 04/02/2025 21:12

I won £1100 this month! I never won so much😄, I am on full holdings

Camille99 · 04/02/2025 21:22

Nothing for me.

blitzen · 04/02/2025 22:15

1×£100 and 1×£50 for me today on roughly £27k

2025ohdear · 04/02/2025 22:26

minny80 · 04/02/2025 21:12

I won £1100 this month! I never won so much😄, I am on full holdings

Well done

Applesandpears23 · 04/02/2025 22:31

£100x2 on 2xFH here. I enjoy the excitement so much I have got the kids some PB so they can join in nextmonth.

rosalynd34 · 04/02/2025 23:15

Tworedgeraniums · 04/02/2025 07:43

I really thought I’d win something this month. October was my last win, I’ve got a reasonably large amount in bonds too.

if I don’t win next month I think I’ll remove a big chunk back into savings. 🙁

My last win was sept, im thinking if no win next month im moving it to savings. I cant see a few people have had a run of bad luck but nothing for 5 months seems really bad luck

Blondeshavemorefun · 05/02/2025 01:24

Malbecfan · 04/02/2025 19:56

Which app? Blue or yellow? TIA

Both then can check stuff more easily

obv the checker is the fun one with lady singing /dancing in the rain /with a carrot 😂

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Phase2 · 05/02/2025 07:10

Well done to all the winners.
I've been reading some of the alternatives etc.
I have £11,000 in and I think I'm going to stop there for now.
I have two accounts with a 6% or fairly decent interest rate so am going to use those (basic rate tax payer) - I think they may have a max limit of what you can save up to.
It's quite nice seeing interest added but currently tiny amounts so I think that's my plan for now.
I think I want to save enough to put a chunk in rather than small regular amounts.

Ciri · 05/02/2025 07:24

Phase2 · 05/02/2025 07:10

Well done to all the winners.
I've been reading some of the alternatives etc.
I have £11,000 in and I think I'm going to stop there for now.
I have two accounts with a 6% or fairly decent interest rate so am going to use those (basic rate tax payer) - I think they may have a max limit of what you can save up to.
It's quite nice seeing interest added but currently tiny amounts so I think that's my plan for now.
I think I want to save enough to put a chunk in rather than small regular amounts.

I’m not sure why anyone would use premium bonds unless they were a higher rate tax payer with maxed out isa and a lot in their pension. Other than a few hundred pounds in for a lottery alternative why would you sacrifice the interest?

1975wasthebest · 05/02/2025 07:30

Ciri · 05/02/2025 07:24

I’m not sure why anyone would use premium bonds unless they were a higher rate tax payer with maxed out isa and a lot in their pension. Other than a few hundred pounds in for a lottery alternative why would you sacrifice the interest?

Because it’s the tiny chance of winning big that other saving platforms (apart from Halifax and a couple of others I can’t think of now) don’t offer.

But yesterday I did consider moving my £4K to my Chip ISA. I’ll give it a few more months before deciding what to do.

SaturdayKitchenSally · 05/02/2025 07:30

@ciri what a blinkered view!

I’m a higher rate tax payer with a pension provision that isn’t maxed out, plus an isa, I’m also a single parent who needs an emergency fund that’s entirely accessible. That’s what my PB account is.

If I put my cash into my pension it’s not accessible.

SaturdayKitchenSally · 05/02/2025 07:34

Just checked one of my cash isas, £4000 at 2.67%. Not really worth getting excited about.

kiraric · 05/02/2025 07:46

SaturdayKitchenSally · 05/02/2025 07:34

Just checked one of my cash isas, £4000 at 2.67%. Not really worth getting excited about.

I have a cash ISA with trading 212 which gives 4.9%

I use PBs primarily to stash away cash that I expect to use within the tax year rather than long term savings - e.g. cash set aside to pay my self assessment tax bill

Phase2 · 05/02/2025 08:14

Yes it's the fun of it I guess, and not having enough to ever max out anything Grin but it's getting less fun and more annoying ! 6.25 gross with Lloyds so I'll be chucking any spare in there for now.

Ciri · 05/02/2025 08:17

SaturdayKitchenSally · 05/02/2025 07:34

Just checked one of my cash isas, £4000 at 2.67%. Not really worth getting excited about.

Yes but a cash isa is also instantly accessible and you can get circa 5% (mine are also in trading 212)

Don't get me wrong we have premium bonds but only because we cant dump cash into our isas again until April

Ciri · 05/02/2025 08:20

I understand it's a dopamine hit. But so is the little ping on my phone every single day telling me Ive just earned £10 interest

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