Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Money matters

Find financial and money-saving discussions including debt and pension chat on our Money forum. If you're looking for ways to make your money to go further, sign up to our Moneysaver emails here.

DP has joined me in Uk - what do I tell UNiversal Credit pls

67 replies

ucspur · 11/09/2024 17:16

Hello

my DP has been living abroad - just very little support from him once in a while as things were tough over there , that’s why we have gotten a spouse visa for him to come work here to support each other

pls what would UC need ? I want to report asap as I get anxiety over UC matters, but would they need make him look for work compulsorily, he brought just about 2k with him to support himself , does he need to declare that and would they take that into consideration with my income?

PS: he is not entitled to benefit because he is on spouse visa but I’m aware I need to report a move in partner

thank you

OP posts:
KerryBlues · 12/09/2024 19:56

ucspur · 12/09/2024 19:34

I wouldn’t either !

but don’t you think I could tel him to stay back where he is while I enjoy benefits and I go back home to see him?

or do you think he gets benefits while he is on spouse visa?its still the same amount of benefits I have been getting that we get while he is here so I AM WORSE OFF if he doesn’t even start working

not everyone is a cheat or is a lazy arse.. I just bloody came on here as I get extremely anxious with govt rules etc to know what the process is and just to know what to expect not to get lectured by your opinion about trying to cheat the system

But you asked ”but would they need make him look for work compulsorily”, op.
You clearly suspect he has no intention to do so. Or why would you even check?

Imalittlewitch · 12/09/2024 20:06

Wouldn't you have needed a joint claim even if he was abroad anyway because he's your husband. He should be sharing money with you and supporting the family he's made.

JustAnotherUserHere · 12/09/2024 20:26

It's clear some people have never suffered anxiety disorder (and emphasis on 'disorder'). I don't know if OP has it but I understand totally the difference between pressuring myself to look for work and finding one ASAP and UC doing the same with their 'help' and threats of sanction for any reason. One causes panic attacks, insomnia, high bp, etc, the other doesn't. I can also see why the 'vipers' have caused OP (anxiety) stress because of a phrase taken the wrong way. It feels like an attack.

@ucspur OP, it's good you've got what you need from your thread, I'd suggest you hide it or ask MNHQ to delete because of personal info or mental health grounds and move on. Leave the "tax payers" (who probably don't do so or earn as much as you do) to goad in an empty room. I also suspect (you/your dh) being a "foreigner" has doubled the ire you're receiving.

ucspur · 12/09/2024 20:43

KerryBlues · 12/09/2024 19:56

But you asked ”but would they need make him look for work compulsorily”, op.
You clearly suspect he has no intention to do so. Or why would you even check?

Ok

OP posts:
ucspur · 12/09/2024 20:43

JustAnotherUserHere · 12/09/2024 20:26

It's clear some people have never suffered anxiety disorder (and emphasis on 'disorder'). I don't know if OP has it but I understand totally the difference between pressuring myself to look for work and finding one ASAP and UC doing the same with their 'help' and threats of sanction for any reason. One causes panic attacks, insomnia, high bp, etc, the other doesn't. I can also see why the 'vipers' have caused OP (anxiety) stress because of a phrase taken the wrong way. It feels like an attack.

@ucspur OP, it's good you've got what you need from your thread, I'd suggest you hide it or ask MNHQ to delete because of personal info or mental health grounds and move on. Leave the "tax payers" (who probably don't do so or earn as much as you do) to goad in an empty room. I also suspect (you/your dh) being a "foreigner" has doubled the ire you're receiving.

Edited

Thank you

will do just that

OP posts:
Floralspecscase · 12/09/2024 20:57

gardenmusic · 12/09/2024 18:19

You would not get to read it, because it would be deleted. You have since stated that he is your husband, not your partner, which makes a difference.

You have asked: but would they need make him look for work compulsorily,
So if he is here to support you, and look for work in order to get you off benefits, why are you asking if 'they' would make it compulsory for him to look for work?
Why would you worry if it was compulsory?
Surely, if his aim is to look for work, any help he can be given, for instance 'make him look for work compulsorily' would help him in his aim?
Heaven forbid we pressure the poor man into helping support his family.

Umm, because, as presumably you're well aware, the experience of being "helped" to look for work by the dwp has been shown to cause extreme mental distress and has led to many suicides, for which reason the UK has been investigated for human rights violations by the U.N..

It would be incredibly irresponsible to risk that if you're able to look for and find work otherwise, as the OP is confident her husband is.

caringcarer · 12/09/2024 21:22

Surely you just report it in your journal. See what they say/tell you to do.

gardenmusic · 13/09/2024 08:32

Umm, because, as presumably you're well aware, the experience of being "helped" to look for work by the dwp has been shown to cause extreme mental distress and has led to many suicides, for which reason the UK has been investigated for human rights violations by the U.N..
It would be incredibly irresponsible to risk that if you're able to look for and find work otherwise, as the OP is confident her husband is.

I am vaguely aware of this, but must admit I have never needed any help to look for work. There was a time when I had 5 jobs and small businesses running concurrently. Never, in all my working life since 16 had less than 2 jobs. (Certainly not knocking anyone with one job)

Poor little lamb. I really hope 'they' do not stress him too much, and interfere with his human rights to work as and when he chooses, and be kept by his UC claiming missus. That would be terribly irresponsible. Musn't risk his welbeing.

We will leave the stress for those feckless working mothers, they can stress all they like as they do the school /nursery drops and hurtle towards work. They can stress again on the return, when they are running late through no fault of their own, and as they frantically look for childcare while they make tea, because little Johnny went down with something. That'll teach them to go to work.

Notgoodatpoetrybutgreatatlit · 13/09/2024 08:59

Hi OP you have done the right thing already. You seem like a responsible person to me. The problem is the benefits system is an emotive topic for so many people. Most people feel as if they have the right to a say how their taxes are spent, and in a robust democracy they do!
But when you are actually out of work and claiming support it feels very pointed. I had an interview when I returned to the UK before I had a job many years ago, I was treated with great suspicion in my interview and pretty much told I was unemployed by choice. I was amazed, I took a job the next day and never went back.
I expect your husband will find work quickly there are vacancies in so many areas at the moment.
As a whole the UK has a big problem with work at the moment, so many people are unable to work because of illness, I myself do a 4 day week partly because of a medical condition. I honestly believe 4 day weeks should be the norm. I am lucky as I can afford to take the pay cut. For older folk like me a 4 day week is so much more manageable.

ucspur · 13/09/2024 10:56

gardenmusic · 13/09/2024 08:32

Umm, because, as presumably you're well aware, the experience of being "helped" to look for work by the dwp has been shown to cause extreme mental distress and has led to many suicides, for which reason the UK has been investigated for human rights violations by the U.N..
It would be incredibly irresponsible to risk that if you're able to look for and find work otherwise, as the OP is confident her husband is.

I am vaguely aware of this, but must admit I have never needed any help to look for work. There was a time when I had 5 jobs and small businesses running concurrently. Never, in all my working life since 16 had less than 2 jobs. (Certainly not knocking anyone with one job)

Poor little lamb. I really hope 'they' do not stress him too much, and interfere with his human rights to work as and when he chooses, and be kept by his UC claiming missus. That would be terribly irresponsible. Musn't risk his welbeing.

We will leave the stress for those feckless working mothers, they can stress all they like as they do the school /nursery drops and hurtle towards work. They can stress again on the return, when they are running late through no fault of their own, and as they frantically look for childcare while they make tea, because little Johnny went down with something. That'll teach them to go to work.

I genuinely think you need help!

OP posts:
ucspur · 13/09/2024 11:15

Notgoodatpoetrybutgreatatlit · 13/09/2024 08:59

Hi OP you have done the right thing already. You seem like a responsible person to me. The problem is the benefits system is an emotive topic for so many people. Most people feel as if they have the right to a say how their taxes are spent, and in a robust democracy they do!
But when you are actually out of work and claiming support it feels very pointed. I had an interview when I returned to the UK before I had a job many years ago, I was treated with great suspicion in my interview and pretty much told I was unemployed by choice. I was amazed, I took a job the next day and never went back.
I expect your husband will find work quickly there are vacancies in so many areas at the moment.
As a whole the UK has a big problem with work at the moment, so many people are unable to work because of illness, I myself do a 4 day week partly because of a medical condition. I honestly believe 4 day weeks should be the norm. I am lucky as I can afford to take the pay cut. For older folk like me a 4 day week is so much more manageable.

Thank you 😊

OP posts:
gardenmusic · 13/09/2024 11:22

I genuinely think you need help!

Clearly you are getting all the help you need.

Blushingm · 14/09/2024 11:33

JustAnotherUserHere · 12/09/2024 20:26

It's clear some people have never suffered anxiety disorder (and emphasis on 'disorder'). I don't know if OP has it but I understand totally the difference between pressuring myself to look for work and finding one ASAP and UC doing the same with their 'help' and threats of sanction for any reason. One causes panic attacks, insomnia, high bp, etc, the other doesn't. I can also see why the 'vipers' have caused OP (anxiety) stress because of a phrase taken the wrong way. It feels like an attack.

@ucspur OP, it's good you've got what you need from your thread, I'd suggest you hide it or ask MNHQ to delete because of personal info or mental health grounds and move on. Leave the "tax payers" (who probably don't do so or earn as much as you do) to goad in an empty room. I also suspect (you/your dh) being a "foreigner" has doubled the ire you're receiving.

Edited

But the whole reason for him getting his visa etc was to come and support his family - the visa granted because they said he would look for work.......so yes it's compulsory he find work , just work, not a job that is his dream job, but a job that pays so he can support his family - the basis on which his visa was granted.

TheWordWomanIsTaken · 14/09/2024 12:09

titchy · 12/09/2024 19:30

You realise OP also pays taxes yes?

Well, she doesn't actually if she is getting £500/month in UC

TheWordWomanIsTaken · 14/09/2024 12:14

I think they missed the part where I said I earn way over 35k,
im not relying solely on benefits, I just get a little top up most likely cos of the kids

This has to be a wind up, 'way' over £35k and 'a little top up" of £500/month
And yet pensioners on £11.5k are the problem...

Blushingm · 14/09/2024 18:39

Not relying solely on benefits - but yet gets £500 pcm. So her income tax is given back to her, plus more on top essentially....

Caravaggiouch · 14/09/2024 18:45

If your plan is for him to get a job I don’t understand why being “pressured” to get a job is a concern. Same as I would be pressured to get a job should I lose mine, or same as I would be pressured to get a better job if I wanted a higher standard of living than I currently have (or if I wanted to have more children and couldn’t afford them…)

New posts on this thread. Refresh page