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Pension - only paying into mine, not DH's as a long-term plan. Thoughts appreciated!

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UseItOrloseItt · 09/03/2024 11:16

Would really appreciate thoughts on this.

We're late 30's, happily married (together 20 years), 3 dc. I'm full time employed earning circa £40k and have been with the same employer for 20 years. Dh earns £30k ish but is self-employed. All money is shared.

We've had a rocky financial past. Got into a bad situation about 10 years ago with debts (mainly due to mismanagement on our part and when we were earning less) but have pulled ourselves free and are now debt-free, secure home, all bills taken care of and some money to save each month.

Neither of us have ever contributed to a pension...not a penny. Dh has a few scattered pensions from various employers pre-self employment (employer contribution only) worth about £10k total.

In my sole pension with current employer is about £55k...again, employer contributions only, they contribute about 9.5% each month. Defined contribution pension.

We now have circa £200 a month (total, not each) to put aside solely for pensions. This may well increase in future but for now that's it.

My first thought was that we obviously need to prioritise a pension for dh as his is so much lower. Then I discovered my employer matches contributions up to 8% and have realised the difference this would make.

If we contribute £200pm into my pension, my employer will match it, doubling our efforts. If we put £200 into dh's pension, it's just £200. Obviously plus tax savings.

Now I'm thinking it would make far more sense for us to ignore dh's pension and just really focus on mine. It has far greater potential for growth with the additional matching contribution and to not make use of this seems like money down the drain.

Obvious pitfalls are dh being left vulnerable with no pension in his name...but we're married, if we split he'd be entitled to half and if I die, it would go to him anyway. And when it comes time to claim it, we only have my tax free allowance as it's all in my name so losing more to tax. But I think that would surely be made up for by the extra £x years of extra employer matches we wouldn't otherwise get.

What would your thoughts be? Am I missing something awfully obvious or is putting all our pension eggs in my basket the most sensible plan?

For various reasons changing careers for dh isn't practical so he'll remain self employed for the foseeable - so no realistic chance of him having any further employer contributions.

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Greenbike · 09/03/2024 14:49

Willowkins · 09/03/2024 12:43

Sorry to have to ask this but what happens to your pension if you die - either before or after you get to claim it? Is there a benefit that will be paid to your partner or your dependents? Often that is discretionary and might be a lump sump rather than a pension so I'd be concerned about that. I guess you really need to look at the small print.

You’re confusing two different types of pension. In a Defined Benefit (aka final salary / career average) pension, yes what you say is true. There are trustees and scheme rules which decide on survivorship benefits for spouses, and they may not be 100% of the scheme member’s benefits. But OP has a defined contribution pension. This is simply a tax-deferred pot of money with her name on it. There is no annual payment as such - she can take out as much or as little as she likes each year(subject to certain tax rules). She can leave it to whoever she wants when she dies.

Viviennemary · 09/03/2024 14:54

Maybe your DH should move away from being self employed. But In don't think it's wise for him to be left with no pension but I can see why you might think it's a good idea.

UseItOrloseItt · 09/03/2024 16:22

Viviennemary · 09/03/2024 14:54

Maybe your DH should move away from being self employed. But In don't think it's wise for him to be left with no pension but I can see why you might think it's a good idea.

We've thought that many times (various discussions over the last couple of years). But being SE works so well for us and for him. He enjoys his work and as a family it gives us a great level of flexibility that wouldn't be the case if he was employed. We're reluctant to lose that tbh.

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PizzaPastaWine · 09/03/2024 16:50

There's absolutely no way I would be happy to have my pension contributions in my spouses name - married or not. You're still young with many aspects of your lives that could changes there is certainly no guarantee that he would get the contributions that he put in or you for that matter.

You need to sit down and get independent financial advice.

waterlellon · 09/03/2024 17:06

I'd get him to pay into his in case you leave him

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