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PREMIUM BONDS FEB 2024

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Blondeshavemorefun · 01/02/2024 19:27

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff if I’ve missed anything out

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 each time so means 25 chances to win.

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

Or sent to named bank account if over /want winnings in bank account

More info here

https://www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k x 2/3/4

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1860 in prizes

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 21,000:1, can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,860

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 5/6% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 3 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

White - main one with info 😄😄😄

Blue - often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Should be noted that if you are lucky enough to have full holdings you won’t see anything in the blue app even if you have won as that only shows reinvested prizes.

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out

Last day of working month - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Second working day of month - cream app showing all winnings

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

PREMIUM BONDS FEB 2024
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OublietteBravo · 07/03/2024 07:57

@OneFrenchEgg - it’s usually around the 8th of the month. Can be later if the first of the month falls on a weekend.

OneFrenchEgg · 07/03/2024 07:59

Thank you @OublietteBravo that's quite a bit of time.

Blondeshavemorefun · 07/03/2024 12:22

OneFrenchEgg · 07/03/2024 04:23

How long does it take for a prize to be paid? If I won £100 when would it reach my bank account? I'm planning on moving prizes to savings.

What happened to your eggsperiment @OneFrenchEgg

Are you not reinvesting

Seems to me I started to reinvest I'm winning each month

I should check what ones win. Old or new

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CaveMum · 07/03/2024 12:36

nettie434 · 06/03/2024 08:55

'Depending on your other interest bearing accounts, an ISA may be suitable if you think your total annual interest will exceed £1,000 or £500 if you a higher rate tax payer.'

I agree with @fromdownwest, @ThisWomansWorkNeverEnds. The rates on all their accounts seem to be much the same, don't they?

I didn't see anything about the winners. I have no idea if they have to publish that information. I'm assuming the odds of winning are very small but who knows?

Edited

It's not like the lottery where you have to make a choice about going public with the win or not. I'd imagine the vast majority of people do stay quiet (or as quiet as they can) with a big win.

The odds for winning premium bonds are published, while the odds are big, the more bonds you hold the better chance you have of winning.

According to the MSE Premium Bonds calculator, if you have full holdings (£50,000) your probability is:

To win at least £750 over the course of a year - virtual certainty
To win at least £1,000 over the course of a year - 99.2%
To win at least £1,500 over the course of a year - 83.4%
To win at least £2,500 over the course of a year - 17.3%
To win at least £5,000 over the course of a year - 1.6%
To win at least £10,000 over the course of a year -1 in 140
To win at least £25,000 over the course of a year - 1 in 340
To win at least £50,000 over the course of a year - 1 in 790
To win at least £100,000 over the course of a year - 1 in 2,387
To win at least £1,000,000 over the course of a year - 1 in 102,715

Premium Bond Probability Calculator. Unique tool predicts what you'll win plus NEW 'luck test' (moneysavingexpert.com)

OneFrenchEgg · 07/03/2024 22:45

Oh so £100 win and not reinvesting.
First win in the three months.
Only buying in chunks and not £100s here and there. Saving up elsewhere to do this.

Plus: it's in a par with the most I won pre-eggsperiment. I shall add to my spreadsheet.

nettie434 · 08/03/2024 00:12

Thanks for that link @CaveMum. I was referring to not knowing about the chances of winning in the Halifax Savers Draw but it's good to see the odds of winning with full holdings on premium bonds laid out so clearly.

I've seen Martin Lewis's calculator probability calculator https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/savings/premium-bonds-calculator/ which makes it clear that an ordinary savings account is probably better for most people but it's nice to dream of a big win.

CaveMum · 08/03/2024 08:22

@nettie434 oops, that’ll teach me to read a post properly first!

ThisWomansWorkNeverEnds · 08/03/2024 11:48

Thanks everyone for the advice. My only savings are in premium bonds at the moment. I certainly wouldn't be making anywhere near £1000 in interest!!

I think I might open a cash ISA and move some premium bonds over after the April draw. At least will be guaranteed some interest!

elkiedee · 09/03/2024 06:19

@ThisWomansWorkNeverEnds

On £23K, you could get over £1K in interest now, though possibly not at the Halifax - I looked and wasn't impressed by the interest rates. I have slightly more in ISA accounts, most of it very old savings, and at my current interest rate I would get over £1K on this (but rates are now falling after improving considerably over the last year - I think they peaked a few months ago. That's for a basic rate tax payer, as higher rate tax payers get an allowance of £500 interest before being taxed.

I can see the appeal of interest and a prize draw, but presumably every customer only gets one entry in the draw each month.

You could divide your £23K between keeping some in Premium Bonds, 5K in the Halifax for the draw, and the rest in savings accounts (possibly a cash ISA) paying a higher interest rate than Halifax. But good luck anyway with whatever you decide to do.

NHStoPrivate · 09/03/2024 07:11

Yes, I checked Halifax interest rates too, but they just weren't competitive at all.

poostinkywink · 17/03/2024 10:12

Can I ask, what do people do with their winnings? Reinvest, spend or, if you have FH so cant reinvest, where do you move them (e.g. do you have a separate savings account just for PB wins, add to pension etc)?

AllRevvedUpWithNoPlaceToGo · 17/03/2024 10:14

poostinkywink · 17/03/2024 10:12

Can I ask, what do people do with their winnings? Reinvest, spend or, if you have FH so cant reinvest, where do you move them (e.g. do you have a separate savings account just for PB wins, add to pension etc)?

I think of it as my bonus money and spend it on treats!

RubbishDay · 17/03/2024 10:23

poostinkywink · 17/03/2024 10:12

Can I ask, what do people do with their winnings? Reinvest, spend or, if you have FH so cant reinvest, where do you move them (e.g. do you have a separate savings account just for PB wins, add to pension etc)?

DH and I have FH.

Winnings are pooled and placed into a savings account which is used for holidays or house repairs etc.

Hollyhead · 17/03/2024 11:40

@poostinkywink straight into savings as we’re saving to move up housing ladder.

Minikievs · 17/03/2024 12:46

I think of it as my bonus money and spend it on treats!

Me too! Although having won next to nothing in the last few months, there haven't been many treats.
Thinking of pulling about 2/3 of my holdings out next month and sticking it in an ISA.

Any winnings the kids get are reinvested. Although if (when, obviously!) they win a million, I've already decided I'll get half and they'll get quarter each.

Advice400 · 17/03/2024 13:16

We have a FH so used to keep it in the direct saver but now transfer out and put into a 4/5% saver.

My big win I gave £5k away. £10k on a boring but essential retaining wall job. £10k in savings ready for a Japan trip in 2025.

Advice400 · 17/03/2024 13:19

I also keep a winnings tracker and compare it to interest (adjusting for our own tax statuses). If we can get 4% plus we are keeping it in PB - much lower we might move it but I feel a moral obligation to everyone to keep it in after my win last year!

KohlaParasaurus · 17/03/2024 18:06

DH and I both have FH, and our winnings, which have been small so far, are paid into our current account and disappear into our general household expenditure.

43ontherocksporfavor · 17/03/2024 18:37

Yeah we receive our winnings and like to attribute them to a meal out or something.

Wrapunzel · 17/03/2024 20:16

poostinkywink · 17/03/2024 10:12

Can I ask, what do people do with their winnings? Reinvest, spend or, if you have FH so cant reinvest, where do you move them (e.g. do you have a separate savings account just for PB wins, add to pension etc)?

I use YNAB software and assign winnings to the Florida 2027 wishfarm category Grin

poostinkywink · 17/03/2024 20:40

Wrapunzel · 17/03/2024 20:16

I use YNAB software and assign winnings to the Florida 2027 wishfarm category Grin

You do what?!?!?!

poostinkywink · 17/03/2024 20:54

KohlaParasaurus · 17/03/2024 18:06

DH and I both have FH, and our winnings, which have been small so far, are paid into our current account and disappear into our general household expenditure.

This is what happens with me and my husband, but the other replies are giving me some food for thought…

daisychain01 · 17/03/2024 21:26

DHs winnings - reinvested directly

my winnings - Nationwide then when we have a few hundred ££ we reinvest into DHs PB account.

Sallyingon · 18/03/2024 07:29

I reinvest in premium bonds. Am nowhere near full holdings. My son's go in into his current account. He likes to see what he has won.

Eaumyword · 18/03/2024 08:44

Any winnings just get absorbed by household bills. I dream of a nice win so we could have some indulgent treats to really enjoy ourselves.

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