Parking fine

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Does anyone have experience with what happens after a POPLA appeal is rejected. I don't agree with their decision and would like to challenge this in Court. Does anyone know what happens next?

Take careful advice, refer to Citizens Advice etc

Make sure that you have good grounds for your ongoing appeal. If the signs are compliant and processes have been adhered to then you are less likely to be successful
But if you’re confident in the grounds of your appeal then it can be worthwhile

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/law-and-courts/parking-tickets/appealing-parking-tickets/appealing-a-parking-ticket/

If you don't pay now they may take you to the small claims court where, if that's your intention, you can 'have your day'. If you've a good case you may be able to see them off. On the other hand if the signs are clear etc you probably will not.

Thank you both. I actually paid for parking for longer than I stayed and displayed in line with signage but did not enter my reg, so I feel like after showing them evidence that I paid it's morally wrong for them to try and milk me for more money

Most of those where you enter the reg need it before they will sell you the ticket. Precaution against tickets being re-sold etc. Are the conditions clear and explicit about needing a number and how to get it on the ticket?

Avoid pursuing on a moral basis, (courts etc will deal with the facts and whether or not policies and procedures are clear) but you can pursue on a fairness basis

You hadn’t complied with the parking requirements by not entering your registration (unless you did enter a registration but mistyped it)
My question would be how did you manage to pay and display without entering your registration into their system - and therefore if it’s possible to use their system without entering a registration then there’s a potential flaw rendering it unfair on you to (presumably) monitor & enforce by ANPR with a system that can have no registration number captured

Speak to appropriate advisors and see if there have been other cases etc, especially I you can get relevant information about cases in that car park
There are forums and Facebook groups dedicated to parking ticket advice - but do take advice with a pinch of salt - you are the one at risk of additional costs if it fails

Thank you, this is what I argued, surely the machine shouldn't take my money without car reg. And it says pay and display hence it didn't register that it was actually anpr. Anyway I will await to see if they do take me to Court. CAB also advise paying under duress and then making a small claims. I'll do some research. Thanks again

I can't remember tbh. I had never been to this place and assumed pay and display means ensure ticket is visible on dashboard.

I believe that you should pay a parking fine even if you are appealing it. So as to stop the costs escalating.

How much is the fine?

I would say just pay it, and don't do it again, rather than clog up your life with this.

Once you've paid it you're assumed to have accepted liability and the normal routes for review and appeal close.

Remember, unless it is from a local authority, it is not a fine, it is an invoice, an important distinction. Have a look at Black Belt Barrister on YouTube, he had some excellent advice on this as does Money Saving Expert.

I think the process would be tell them you still do not believe the parking penalty is fair and tell them they need to take you to court if they disagree.

They will then probably send threatening letters for years or sell the "debt" on. They may or may not take you to court.

If they insist on customers providing reg numbers then they should program their ticketing machine accordingly in my opinion.

I am stubborn and would probably invite them to take me to court as well. However I do not know the finer details of your case and this is no way meant as any kind of professional or legal advice

I believe that you should pay a parking fine even if you are appealing it. So as to stop the costs escalating

Absolutely not IMO.

That might possibly be suitable advice if you are dealing with a Local Council ticket but not for private parking enforcement companies.

Certainly not good advice with a council. They'll treat it as an admission and you're stuffed for using the review/appeal system.

They will then probably send threatening letters for years or sell the "debt" on. They may or may not take you to court.

I believe that since the Bevis judgment in the Supreme Court the parking companies have been much more bullish about taking people to court. The courts have also lost patience with defendants parroting the same stuff that predates Bevis never mind 'Freemen of England' or whatever they call themselves.

You go to court.

I've done it 3 times. Every single time they drop the case about a month before the date. It’s never worth it for them!

I’ll give a bit more detail: they’ll threaten first, send letters, a legal company will take over (DCB is popular). Just make sure you respond to all court documents, being active and responsive shows them you will come to court - this means when it gets closer to the time they need to weigh up the worthiness. Especially as court has to be close to your house as the defendant. They’ve always dropped the cases for us because we were very responsive.

for my mum, she had one and it was because she didn’t display her disabled badge properly. It went to court but mediation occurs first. Mum was nervous and I handled it for her. I think we’d have won easily in court but in mediation I said we’d pay £20 to cover admin fees, they accepted, it went away.

There are some dedicated websites to this subject. They’ll give you advice as to whether you have a legit case or not.

Thank you all.

A few years ago I paid for a parking ticket then received a fine because the council parking attendant couldn’t see the ticket. I’m can only assume it blew off the dash when the door closed. I appealed it, they asked for a photocopy of the ticket I bought then they dropped it