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Any hope of getting a mortgage on Universal Credit?

115 replies

HouseNoMore · 12/11/2023 19:49

After scrimping and saving for years, living with family and working myself into the ground working full time and being a single mum to 3 very young kids, just as I'm finally putting an offer on my first house I get hit by the UC migration letter

My lender has said that they don't accept UC, and I'm struggling to find another who will lend anywhere close to the same amount my last AIP was

Is there any hope? The irony that if I can't get a house I'll end up renting which will come out of UC's pocket anyway

OP posts:
TeaKitten · 13/11/2023 14:56

Babyroobs · 13/11/2023 14:04

My point is that everyone on UC gets a rent element if you have rent to pay, but that is added to any other elements someone is also eligible for and the whole award is reduced by earnings, you can't separate the elements to say someone gets their full rent paid ?

My point is you don’t no her earnings or entitlement so just informing her she won’t get £550 towards rent as if it’s fact is incorrect.

LakieLady · 13/11/2023 14:58

StarlightLime · 12/11/2023 22:39

The welfare state isn't in the business of providing people with assets.

Tell that to the LLs who have their BTL mortgages paid by tenants' UC or HB.

Babyroobs · 13/11/2023 15:12

TeaKitten · 13/11/2023 14:56

My point is you don’t no her earnings or entitlement so just informing her she won’t get £550 towards rent as if it’s fact is incorrect.

Op says she is working full time so of course there will be deductions as anything over £379 a month would cause deductions. You would hope if working full time that she would be earning more than £379 a month, so there will be deductions which will affect the whole UC award including rent !

TeaKitten · 13/11/2023 15:14

Babyroobs · 13/11/2023 15:12

Op says she is working full time so of course there will be deductions as anything over £379 a month would cause deductions. You would hope if working full time that she would be earning more than £379 a month, so there will be deductions which will affect the whole UC award including rent !

Edited

I didn’t say there wouldn’t be deductions. I said you didn’t no what deductions would be as you don’t no her entitlements or earnings so putting a figure on it and informing her she won’t get £550 when you have no idea how much she’l get before or after deductions is incorrect. Not sure why you are struggling to understand.

Babyroobs · 13/11/2023 15:22

TeaKitten · 13/11/2023 15:14

I didn’t say there wouldn’t be deductions. I said you didn’t no what deductions would be as you don’t no her entitlements or earnings so putting a figure on it and informing her she won’t get £550 when you have no idea how much she’l get before or after deductions is incorrect. Not sure why you are struggling to understand.

Op insinuates in her post upthread that her rent is £550 and that Uc would need to pay that if she doesn't get her mortgage. Therefore if her rent is £550 she isn't going to get that paid after deductions is she? Not sure what you are struggling to understand ? Do you understand how UC works?

Getoverit1965 · 13/11/2023 16:01

Maddy70 · 13/11/2023 08:09

Benefits aren't included in mortgage assessments

That depends on the lender. Some do include them. Nationwide do.

Johannesburg8942 · 13/11/2023 16:26

Babyroobs · 13/11/2023 15:22

Op insinuates in her post upthread that her rent is £550 and that Uc would need to pay that if she doesn't get her mortgage. Therefore if her rent is £550 she isn't going to get that paid after deductions is she? Not sure what you are struggling to understand ? Do you understand how UC works?

Why are you so certain that her UC will be less than £550 though? I take home a little shy of £2400 and my UC is over £800pm.

halloweenn · 13/11/2023 17:45

Rootastic · 13/11/2023 07:50

@halloweenn quite a horrible comment - if you are on 40k in mid 20s where is all your money going? Where about a do you live?

A lot of people are left the houses they live in and thus don’t have cash deposits that impact UC.

Many people on UC work. Many in full time work but low incomes.

It goes on bills such as rent or savings for a deposit thanks - not all of us have family to fund a deposit or inheritance. Instead I was taught to buy a house, get a better paying job. It therefore seems an alien concept that to buy a house, all some need to do is work in a lower income role, have some babies, then the government will contribute to your deposit. What’s the point of being on a higher income if the government sustains a higher quality of life for those on a low income?

TeaKitten · 13/11/2023 18:09

halloweenn · 13/11/2023 17:45

It goes on bills such as rent or savings for a deposit thanks - not all of us have family to fund a deposit or inheritance. Instead I was taught to buy a house, get a better paying job. It therefore seems an alien concept that to buy a house, all some need to do is work in a lower income role, have some babies, then the government will contribute to your deposit. What’s the point of being on a higher income if the government sustains a higher quality of life for those on a low income?

Your understanding of how adult life works and the benefit system is clearly lacking. Try doing some research into it before throwing out your ignorant views and making yourself look stupid. Single parents can be ok 40k and get universal credit help for childcare if their costs are high enough, it’s not low income. Not everyone asks for their partner to leave or die once they’ve had babies. Some people end up disabled and unexpectedly needing benefits, all of these things could happen to you in the future. Guessing you aren’t planning on having any babies, or claiming any benefits if something goes wrong in your life then.

MrShady · 13/11/2023 18:10

@halloweenn they don't! I have a mortgage and no DC, on min wage so don't get top ups

DragonFly98 · 13/11/2023 18:11

No it doesn't you have 12 months protection on savings above £16k

TeaKitten · 13/11/2023 18:12

Babyroobs · 13/11/2023 15:22

Op insinuates in her post upthread that her rent is £550 and that Uc would need to pay that if she doesn't get her mortgage. Therefore if her rent is £550 she isn't going to get that paid after deductions is she? Not sure what you are struggling to understand ? Do you understand how UC works?

It really isn’t me whose comprehension is lacking here. And yes, I am a single parent working full time (in a role that isn’t very low paid, it’s average for round here), eligible for universal credit. So it’s fair to say I no more than you do here.

DragonFly98 · 13/11/2023 18:12

Yes she will she is migrating.

starlightcan · 13/11/2023 18:13

StarlightLime · 12/11/2023 19:51

Why do you think you should be able to pay off a mortgage partially funded by benefits?

Well someone will be paying off a mortgage funded by benefits either way.

DragonFly98 · 13/11/2023 18:18

Messed up my quotes there. Anyway op as others have said try Nationwide.

zelda10 · 13/11/2023 18:37

LakieLady · 13/11/2023 14:58

Tell that to the LLs who have their BTL mortgages paid by tenants' UC or HB.

Ha. This, absolutely.

SheilaFentiman · 13/11/2023 23:08

halloweenn · 13/11/2023 17:45

It goes on bills such as rent or savings for a deposit thanks - not all of us have family to fund a deposit or inheritance. Instead I was taught to buy a house, get a better paying job. It therefore seems an alien concept that to buy a house, all some need to do is work in a lower income role, have some babies, then the government will contribute to your deposit. What’s the point of being on a higher income if the government sustains a higher quality of life for those on a low income?

“ all you need to do is work in a lower income role and have some babies”

Nice. The fifties called, they want their woman-bashing back.

You get that babies are people? Who grow and need space and clothes and heat and food? Some elements of benefits are to provide those.

You don’t have any dependants, your situation is very different.

Coconutdragon · 13/11/2023 23:12

StarlightLime · 12/11/2023 22:39

The welfare state isn't in the business of providing people with assets.

Erm, yes it is: enormous amounts of benefits go to paying private landlords.

Swimeveryday · 13/11/2023 23:18

Any chance the family member you live with could be a guarantor or go on mortgage? You’ll have to do something asap as UC will stop with savings over 16k. Good luck.

TeaKitten · 13/11/2023 23:21

Swimeveryday · 13/11/2023 23:18

Any chance the family member you live with could be a guarantor or go on mortgage? You’ll have to do something asap as UC will stop with savings over 16k. Good luck.

Edited

As has been said, shel get a year on UC before it stops due to the savings.

AdoraBell · 13/11/2023 23:24

Definitely speak to a broker.

Swimeveryday · 14/11/2023 07:11

@TeaKitten 12 months gives her some breathing space but 100k for a three bed isn’t going to be easy. OP what about shared ownership schemes? More security but will still have a rent element?

bellac11 · 14/11/2023 07:19

halloweenn · 13/11/2023 07:42

It’s insane that I earn £40k at mid-20s and couldn’t look to buy a house right now…but people on benefits can. Like what’s the point in working?

There are lots of places in the UK where people can buy a house for about 100k or 120k, OP may have saved up 30k for example and only needs a mortgage of 70k for all we know, she didnt (unhelpfully) give any figures

So you certainly can look to buy a house on that sort of money, particuarly at your age. Your mortgage would be tiny

gotomomo · 14/11/2023 07:53

@halloweenn

It's area dependent ... my dd is younger and earns less than you but is at the point of buying, second viewing tonight, the house is £135k and she has saved up the deposit herself including her starting bonus from work. Some parts of the country are cheaper

allhellcantstopusnow · 14/11/2023 12:19

halloweenn · 13/11/2023 07:42

It’s insane that I earn £40k at mid-20s and couldn’t look to buy a house right now…but people on benefits can. Like what’s the point in working?

Sounds like a you problem rather than a welfare system problem. Stop projecting.

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