UC-if one partner earns enough can the other not work ?

[Stayingathome]

I know they are changing the rules for age 3 and up a parent has to then do 30 hrs but I wasn’t sure if one partner earns enough can the other not work ?

Get a fit note, for at least 3 months if you can then you'll be referred for a work capability assessment.

Your Work Coach can discuss what hours you are able to do based on your health, so it's not a straightforward 30 hours.

You can't nominate your partner to have your hours as such, but once the household wage is more than the conditionality earnings threshold (CET) you will not need to be seen.

The CET is both of your expected hours X national minimum wage for the month.

Even if he increases his hours, I would still get a work capability assessment done. As PP's have advised, reapply for PIP.

At the moment as long as one of a couple is earning over a certain amount then the other person doesn't have to work 16 or 30 hours. AT THE MOMENT. My youngest is one and my husband earns enough to cover the couple's AET. However I do one or two shifts a week so hopefully they will leave me alone. You would be better to see if you can get medical exemption to turn your work commitments off as otherwise they will be asking you to come to appointments to be made work ready. Your partner can't do yours for you.

LCWRA and PIP are different - one is about your capacity to work and the other is about difficulty with everyday tasks and getting around. To be considered for LCWRA you need to get consecutive fit notes from your GP saying you're unfit for work which will trigger a LCWRA assessment. I used to support vulnerable adults and I knew of several who got LCWRA but not PIP.

How would you manage at home if he ends up working more hours, thus taking him away from home?

This might help you with that.
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/universal-credit/if-youre-sick-or-disabled/getting-universal-credit-if-youre-sick-or-disabled/

I’m not sure but we would need to have some support or help from somebody

Disabilities aren't a life style choice. Whatever reason people claim isn't really your business.

Thankyou

I just want to say hi and much love to the OP who came on here with a question and got a lecture from some posters instead.

I hope you feel better soon OP.

You can give FIT notes that will excuse you from the normal claimant commitment and get the LCFW. Get some help with your next PIP application, there is a knack to it x

Could you claim carers allowance? Or is it that you need help with the children rather than directly with yourself?

Thankyou for being so kind x

Hi OP,

Yes, if your partner earns over the Administrative Earnings Threshold you'll be moved from the intensive work search group to the "light touch" group. I believe the amount for couples is £1,083 and it shouldn't make a difference whether that's earned through one person working full time or both working part time but this wouldn't stop you being asked to search for work.

I know you say you've been rejected for PIP but it's still worth applying for LCW/RA.

LCW is no work search commitments but no extra payment and LCWRA includes an extra payment. It's worth asking for an appeal if they deem you not eligible as the majority of appeals are overturned. In my experience LCWRA is easier to get than PIP. If there any issues you're experiencing that are preventing you from working that the GP isn't helping you with yet/aware of them contact them ASAP to get help with them so that when you request a GP support letter for your application, they have your issue on record.

Feel free to PM me for help with applying or join the Universal Credit Facebook group as there are lots of knowledgeable people who can help and you don't get the judgemental comments about claiming on there like you often do on Mumsnet!

I’m pretty sure that won’t be an option come sometime next year but I’m not 100% sure. I’m pretty sure DWP will expect both individuals to bring in a certain amount if they’re claiming. I’m just feeding the kids but once I’m done I’ll add a link

Oh yes I was also going to say join the FB group and ask there. The mods are very experienced

OP definitely go to Citizens Advice. They can help with PIP forms and advise you on the LCWRA under UC. Filling in a PIP form is a nightmare and there are often things that you would not think of including. You can also apply for a Mandatory Reconsideration of your PIP outside the one month deadline as long as no longer than 13 months have passed from the decision and you have a good reason for applying late. Again Citizens Advice will be able to help.

No you can’t transfer your work requirements to your partner, you both have to do the work.

Also in the nicest way possible, if you didn’t satisfy requirements for PIP then you have very little chance of getting LCWRA, you may get LCW, but that still has requirements for work related activities. LCWRA is extremely hard to get, I have known people with 10+ years of medical evidence behind them, physically unable to leave the house alone, be turned down because they are capable of answering a phone call, or pressing a button on a key pad.

@Stayingathome my mum has finally been approved for pip on 3rd try so 1 application and 2 appeals so would be worth to keep trying 😊

Op's dh isn't disabled.

Nobody said he is. He’s helping care for his unwell partner. I’m sure they would bother rather she wasn’t ill so that they could both work more.

I miss work terribly. I miss every part of my old life terribly I don’t want to be like this. We are just trying to survive as best we can with really difficult circumstances and it’s hard

No advice but you’ve lots of good suggestions. You’ve had a really awful few years, just wanted to say how sorry I am 💐