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UC claim refused - what next?

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Helpmysis · 27/10/2023 19:05

My sister has very bravely fled a DV relationship with her 3 children.
She came to live with me initially and then we managed to sort them out a rental property which they have now all moved into.
She made a claim for UC but It’s been refused on the basis that she has capital in a property even though they make no profit from it, it’s inhabitable (was meant to be a restoration project but never got finished for various reasons), plus it would be unsafe to live with him.
What can I do to help her? I’ve read about there being a disregard if the property is listed for sale but her ex will refuse to do that.

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Helpmysis · 16/11/2023 11:22

She’s already spoken to citizens advice, fully explained her situation and they said she wouldn’t be eligible for universal credit.

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AnotherEmma · 16/11/2023 13:00

Helpmysis · 16/11/2023 11:22

She’s already spoken to citizens advice, fully explained her situation and they said she wouldn’t be eligible for universal credit.

Who did she talk to? Local office or help to claim? She should contact them again and ask the adviser to consult a supervisor and if necessary seek further advice from the expert advice team, as PP said.

I'm a supervisor and I don't think it's as simple as saying she's not eligible.

Helpmysis · 16/11/2023 16:20

I’m not sure, do you think they’d speak to me about it on her behalf as she’s not really in the right place mentally at the moment to advocate for herself?

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AnotherEmma · 16/11/2023 18:05

Yes - ideally you would be physically with her when you call them, so that she can give verbal consent over the phone for you to talk on her behalf. Otherwise, if that's not possible, what I usually do is email a consent form - she would need to complete and sign a form confirming she consents for you to act on her behalf.

AnotherEmma · 16/11/2023 18:57

Also, I know she's already tried a lot of helplines, but this one might be helpful too:
https://survivingeconomicabuse.org/what-we-do/financial-support-line/

I don't know if she/you managed to call Rights of Women, but if not, you should try them. I think your sister should be eligible for legal aid and if the application is rejected because of this capital (that she can't access), she can appeal it.
See https://rightsofwomenincorporated.eu.rit.org.uk/Handlers/Download.ashx?IDMF=bb643d24-a5e0-410c-9d5a-9a26b4e79f81

There is something called a "statutory charge" whereby she would repay the legal fees if she got anything in the settlement. See https://rightsofwomenincorporated.eu.rit.org.uk/a-guide-to-family-law-legal-aid

If she has not yet done so she should contact Civil Legal Aid. See https://www.gov.uk/civil-legal-advice

Financial Support Line - Surviving Economic Abuse

The Financial Support Line empowers people who have experienced or are experiencing abuse to regain control of their finances.

https://survivingeconomicabuse.org/what-we-do/financial-support-line/

AnotherEmma · 16/11/2023 19:50

To be clear, this issue is benefit specialist territory and your sister would be advised to get support from her local citizens advice to challenge the decision. However, to reassure you that it will be possible to challenge it, this discussion on the finer points might be helpful: https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/18556/

Discussion: Capital disregard where property is owned jointly with perpetrator of domestic abuse - Rightsnet

https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/18556/

Bromptotoo · 19/11/2023 11:20

I'd urge the OP to have a look at the Rightsnet thread mentioned by @AnotherEmma.

Elliott Kent's post on there is clear and sharp and as a user of Rightsnet I can say that Elliott knows his stuff.

Helpmysis · 27/12/2023 09:52

I just wanted to update this thread and say thanks to all who offered their advice and support. We found out on Christmas Eve that my sisters second universal credit claim (where we mentioned all the reasons listed for capital disregard) had been approved. 😀

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Catsknowbest · 27/12/2023 09:56

That's brilliant news

AnotherEmma · 27/12/2023 09:59

Helpmysis · 27/12/2023 09:52

I just wanted to update this thread and say thanks to all who offered their advice and support. We found out on Christmas Eve that my sisters second universal credit claim (where we mentioned all the reasons listed for capital disregard) had been approved. 😀

Ah, that's brilliant news! Thanks so much for updating us Smile

Bromptotoo · 27/12/2023 11:16

Woo hoo. That's what I'd have suspected. I'm very disappointed that her local Citizens Advice told her she'd no case. I know she's got bigger fish to fry but she ought to follow that up.

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