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My fifteen year old's national insurance number re weekend work

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ShinyHappyPeopleHoldingHands · 08/03/2008 16:00

My 15 year old DS has started weekend work in a pub kichen and they have been paying him cash in hand for a few weeks (as they did at his last casual job in a hotel kitchen.)

Now they've asked for a national insurance number. He does have one because he has been in receipt of Disability Living Allowance all his life (well WE have on his behalf! It'll start going to him from his 16th birthday which is thinks is fab obviously) and my friend, who works the benefits agency tells me this number is in fact his NI No.

However, he's not been issued a card with this/a NI No on.. you get that when you turn 16 don't you? Do you still? I know I did.. He's not 16 til July.

Should he give this existing number to his employers does anyone know?


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Mumcentreplus · 08/03/2008 16:07

If the NINO you have consists of letters and numbers then in all probability it is his National insurance need it to claim any benefit and if it is a temporary number its only numbers.

Mumcentreplus · 08/03/2008 16:08

No letters..

Saggarmakersbottomknocker · 08/03/2008 16:10

The one on his DLA is his NI number Shiny. And yes you do get a card when he turns 16.

And a quick hijack - has ds's DLA been awarded past his 16th birthday? - I thought they had to reapply in their own name at that point. Just curious as dd's expires on her 16th.

ShinyHappyPeopleHoldingHands · 08/03/2008 16:36

Oh thanks! Yes it consists of the relevant letters and numbers just as a normal NI No does and friend assured me a while ago (not about this) that is IS actually a NI No.. just didn't know if it would change or anything when he turned 16.

Saagar, he is 16 in July and current award of DLA runs out day before his birthday (as is normal I think.) The new claim pack was addressed to me because it has to be filled out BEFORE he's sixteen (sent it off last week) so he's not actually allowed to sign anything until he IS sixteen.

And they've just (yesterday) sent antother form asking whether or not he is staying in full time education or not when I don't know the answer as he has applied to colleges but is trying to get an electrician's (modern) apprenticeship which, if he is successful, will mean he will go part time to college.

I have just written "UNKNOWN because.." (reasons above)

It's a minefield!

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BecauseImWorthIt · 08/03/2008 16:39

DS1 turned 16 a couple of weeks ago, and we haven't received anything re a NI number. Is this right, or should I be contacting someone about it?

Sorry to hijack the thread! It just reminded me.

SlightlyMadSecretSoundWinner · 08/03/2008 16:40

I would say that as he doesn't have a card yet you don't have to give it to teh pub.

If he didn't have DLA he wouldn't know his NI number yet would he? MOst children his age don't know their number yet do they? It won't hurt to say he does not have an NI number yet.

Saggarmakersbottomknocker · 08/03/2008 16:43

Ah - I'll know who to shout for this time next year then

ShinyHappyPeopleHoldingHands · 08/03/2008 16:45

That's what I was thinking really.. despite fact that it almost definitely IS his Ni NO.. should he be giving it employers? Maybe I'll just phone social and ask on Mon.

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brimfull · 08/03/2008 16:49

My dd's NI card arrived in the post a few weeks before her 16th birthday .

BecauseImWorthIt · 08/03/2008 17:35

Do you think ours has gone missing then? Who does it come from/should I be contacting?

brimfull · 08/03/2008 17:54

Well a few of dd's friends got theirs after their birthday so??

banality · 08/03/2008 20:45

Yes, that is likely to be his NI number. Just to avoid confusion as to whether he should give it to his employer, check out this government site for advice.

BecauseImWorthIt · 11/03/2008 17:26

Well they must have sensed this thread in the ether as DS's NI number arrived in the post yesterday!

roquefort · 12/03/2008 17:14

Under 16s do not pay national insurance contributions so I would not give them the number in case they start making deductions from his pay.

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