Council tax and pip

[Popworld]

Am I right in thinking if I'm in receipt of pip living component that I'm entitled to council tax support regardless of non dependents income and savings ?

No you would need to meet the criteria for council tax support. For most councils if you have savings over 16k you won't be eligible for council tax support. It is a means tested benefit.

@Babyroobs has it. PIP may help by increasing the amount you're seen as needing to live on but it will depend on how your Council runs its scheme.

Are you sure? This is on entitled to website

"Exemptions from a deduction / contribution due to your circumstancesIf you or your partner are registered blind or claiming Disability Living Allowance care component (for Universal Credit it must be the middle or higher rate), Personal Independence Payment daily living component or Attendance Allowance then a non-dependant deduction or housing cost contribution will not be taken from your benefits regardless of your non-dependant's circumstances. The calculator automatically recognises these cases."

Re reread the OP and I'm wondering if it's the Non Deps income etc that @Popworld is asking about.

In that case then at least here in West Northants, there's no Non Dep adjustment if the Claimant is on PIP.

Council tax support is classified as a ‘benefit’ by the government (it’s technically an income related discount). Each council gets to decide their scheme. So from Council to Council the schemes vary.

if you provide the council you claim from I can look over the scheme. Or request an explanation of your award from your council.

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My dh is on PIP and I'm his carer and receive carers allowance. We have a son who lived with us and worked full time when we were initially applying for council tax support. The man at the council (Lancashire) started asking about our son's earnings but as soon as we told him dh was in receipt of the standard daily rate of PIP, he said it didn't matter if our son earnt a million pounds, it wouldn't affect us getting council tax support due to the PIP award. We have less than 6k savings if that makes a difference?

That's good to know . I know they have less then 16k saving but that will be increasing a time goes on . They both work full time so no careers allowance. Due to the pip I also get full housing benifit aswell . But we initially had a letter with roughly 70% reduction then got another saying we had to pay full amount . I just wasnt sure if where the circumstances had changed I'd need to reaply for council tax support or if I was actually entitled to it

Depends on your council. I’m with Norfolk and on highest rates of PIP long term and don’t get any reductions at all.

@Popworld Maybe, as others have said, it depends what your particular council's rules are. I'd certainly get in touch with the council tax department and see if you are entitled to support.

This is the wording from there council tax support scheme:

Non-dependant deductions: pensioners and persons who are not pensioners.
(1) Subject to the following provisions of this paragraph, the non-dependant deductions in respect of a day
referred to in section 29 (maximum council tax reduction) shall be;
(a) in respect of a non-dependant aged 18 or over in remunerative work, £14.15 x 1/7;
(b) in respect of a non-dependant aged 18 or over to whom sub-paragraph (a) does not apply, £4.60
x 1/7.
(2) In the case of a non-dependant aged 18 or over to whom paragraph 30.1(a) applies, where it is shown to
the appropriate authority that his normal gross weekly income is–
(a) less than £236.00, the deduction to be made under this paragraph shall be that specified in para-
graph 58.1(b);
(b) not less than £236.00, but less than £410.00, the deduction to be made under this section shall be
£9.40 x1/7
(c) not less than £410.00, but less than £511.00, the deduction to be made under this section shall be
£11.80 x 1/7.
(3) Only one deduction is to be made under this paragraph in respect of a couple or, as the case may be,
members of a polygamous marriage (other than where there is an award of universal credit) and,
where, but for this paragraph, the amount that would fall to be deducted in respect of one member
of a couple or polygamous marriage is higher than the amount (if any) that would fall to be deducted
in respect of the other, or any other, member, the higher amount is to be deducted.
(4) In applying the provisions of sub-paragraph (2) in the case of a couple or, as the case may be, a
polygamous marriage, regard must be had, for the purpose of that sub-paragraph, to the couple's
or, as the case may be, all members of the polygamous marriage's joint weekly gross income.
(5) Where in respect of a day—
(a) a person is a resident in a dwelling but is not himself liable for council tax in respect of that
dwelling and that day;
(b) other residents in that dwelling (the liable persons) have joint and several liability for council tax
in respect of that dwelling and that day otherwise than by virtue of section 9 of the 1992 Act
(liability of spouses and civil partners); and
(c) the person to whom paragraph (a) refers is a non-dependant of two or more of the liable persons,
the deduction in respect of that non-dependant must be apportioned equally between those
liable persons.
(6) No deduction is to be made in respect of any non-dependants occupying an applicant's dwelling if
the applicant or his partner is—
(a) blind or treated as blind by virtue of paragraph 10 of Schedule 3 (additional condition for the
disability premium); or
(b) receiving in respect of himself—
(i) attendance allowance, or would be receiving that allowance but for—
(aa) a suspension of benefit in accordance with regulations under section 113(2) of the SSCBA;
or
(bb) an abatement as a result of hospitalisation; or
(ii) the care component of the disability living allowance, or would be receiving that component
but for—
(aa) a suspension of benefit in accordance with regulations under section 113(2) of the SSCBA;
or
(bb) an abatement as a result of hospitalisation; or
(iii) the daily living component of personal independence payment, or would be receiving that
allowance but for a suspension of benefit in accordance w

Other posters are correct in that if in receipt of PIP, a non dependents earnings would not be taken into account, but your savings and earnings would be. Apologies if I misunderstood what you were asking.

Its probably the way I wrote it. It sort of reads like :

Regardless or non dependents, earnings and savings

When I meant regardless of the earnings and savings that the non dependents have