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pip reviews backlog

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namedoesntmattter · 13/01/2023 22:12

hi i was due to get a review in november last year on pip but told it had been postponed ive looked up and from what ive read theres backlogs with pip i just wondered if anybody knows how long the backlogs are as ive started to get an attitude from jobcentre staff at appointments theyre convinced theres nothing wrong with me and i will fail assessment and its time to start looking for work of course this isnt directly said but its implied and theres always an attitude i feel like im been bullied by them i was awarded pip due to anxiety and depression

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Babyroobs · 13/01/2023 22:16

In my area there are big backlogs with PIP reviews but not with new claims. I don't understand why job centre are pressurizing you to work as PIP is not really about fitness to work anyway. If you feel you are not able to work then you should ask for a work capability assessment on universal credit if you claim that.

namedoesntmattter · 13/01/2023 22:21

im on that too babyroobs but ive been told that ive been on that too and sorry thats what i meant shouldnt have been pip although im on that im in the limited for work group in what used to be esa and the last three times ive had appointments at jobcentre ive been asked as a 49 year old if ive ever worked implying im lazy (i have worked) and also cared for my parents for several years which wasnt easy ive been told that i shouldnt expect to win my review and to start preparing myself for after the review to start looking for work

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namedoesntmattter · 13/01/2023 22:23

it seems they believe that this has been a holiday for me being in the limited for work group and ive done nothing although i volunteer and attend groups that help with anxiety but i dont think theyre attitude helps when theyre implying people are lazy for being in this group and making them feel like its one long holiday

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Outfor150 · 13/01/2023 22:33

Sorry to hijack the thread, but I was looking into putting in a PIP claim, but it seems so complicated. Mine is related to my worsening cancer that I’ve been dealing with for three years, but it keeps coming back. I have never claimed any benefits before and I’m a bit daunted. How are you meant to provide evidence? I have my many hospital letters but they just talk about my health, not what I can’t do any more.

Millionaireshortbread0 · 13/01/2023 22:36

My pip ran out 1st of January (had already been moved by a year). I sent my paperwork in for review as requested last February, in September I had a phonecall out of the blue early Sunday morning he asked lots of questions, said we need to send someone out to see you -still had no-one. They seem to be continuing to pay me. I've struggled to prove my disability for blue badge renewal, I'm on edge just waiting for review and since I filled my paperwork in my health has changed so was pretty pointless filling in the paperwork so far in advance.

namedoesntmattter · 13/01/2023 22:38

i outfor phone pip and ask for a questionnaire 0800 917 22 22 is phone number they will ask you some questions on phone whats wrong with you how long youve had this for etc then send you questionnaire i believe they will also ask for you gp details when you get forn it asks whats wrong with you how it effects you what tasks you can and cant do etc and they will ask if you have any evidance such as letters you photocopy those and return with form you dont have to be on any other benefits to get pip

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namedoesntmattter · 13/01/2023 22:42

also outfor you will get a face to face or telephone assessment after pip look at your application i think mine lasted for about 45 min and can be invasive i was angry at some of questions they asked including about bathroom and how regularly i washed how often i washed how often i changed clothes etc its best to have somebody with you for support my appointment was over the phone

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namedoesntmattter · 13/01/2023 22:44

and outfor i hope you get better cancer is a b

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Babyroobs · 13/01/2023 23:43

Outfor150 · 13/01/2023 22:33

Sorry to hijack the thread, but I was looking into putting in a PIP claim, but it seems so complicated. Mine is related to my worsening cancer that I’ve been dealing with for three years, but it keeps coming back. I have never claimed any benefits before and I’m a bit daunted. How are you meant to provide evidence? I have my many hospital letters but they just talk about my health, not what I can’t do any more.

Perhaps ask your Nurse specialist if their is a local macmillan benefits team or call the macmillan helpline to find out your nearest place to get help. They often work through CAB and are specialists in helping people with cancer to secure benefits. they can help with form filling, support with the asessment etc.

morningstar15 · 14/01/2023 12:15

Millionaireshortbread0 · 13/01/2023 22:36

My pip ran out 1st of January (had already been moved by a year). I sent my paperwork in for review as requested last February, in September I had a phonecall out of the blue early Sunday morning he asked lots of questions, said we need to send someone out to see you -still had no-one. They seem to be continuing to pay me. I've struggled to prove my disability for blue badge renewal, I'm on edge just waiting for review and since I filled my paperwork in my health has changed so was pretty pointless filling in the paperwork so far in advance.

Contact MavMillan. They employ Welfare Benefits Officers who can advise specific to your circumstances. No point pissing about trying to get advice on here - the level of misinformation is appalling at times!

Here's the link:

https://www.macmillan.org.uk/cancer-information-and-support/impacts-of-cancer/benefits-and-financial-support/benefits-and-your-rights?&infinity=ict2~net~gaw~ar~~kw~~mt~~cmp~gpmaxxleguk~ag~&gclid=cjwkcaiawomebhbweiwam43yijrl2m82nub4l-ofs5ck7i8p5brquva85udlfpzb6fqo9rhj77luvhocz9iqavddbwe&gclsrc=aw.ds

LakieLady · 15/01/2023 18:30

Outfor150 · 13/01/2023 22:33

Sorry to hijack the thread, but I was looking into putting in a PIP claim, but it seems so complicated. Mine is related to my worsening cancer that I’ve been dealing with for three years, but it keeps coming back. I have never claimed any benefits before and I’m a bit daunted. How are you meant to provide evidence? I have my many hospital letters but they just talk about my health, not what I can’t do any more.

Get someone from Macmillan to help you, they have welfare rights staff who are very good and know exactly what to put for people in your position.

abigailsnan · 16/01/2023 10:42

Outfor150 · 13/01/2023 22:33

Sorry to hijack the thread, but I was looking into putting in a PIP claim, but it seems so complicated. Mine is related to my worsening cancer that I’ve been dealing with for three years, but it keeps coming back. I have never claimed any benefits before and I’m a bit daunted. How are you meant to provide evidence? I have my many hospital letters but they just talk about my health, not what I can’t do any more.

Take all your paper work to a Macmillon nurse within your area and she/he will help you they are so good at getting this type of problem sorted it will be fast tracked for you,best of luck.

Outfor150 · 16/01/2023 18:24

Thanks for the advice re Macmillan. I went over it in the phone with them today, and they don’t think I will get enough points at the moment to qualify for PIP. It seems odd to me - I will never get better but I’m not entitled to any benefits at all.

Babyroobs · 16/01/2023 18:29

Outfor150 · 16/01/2023 18:24

Thanks for the advice re Macmillan. I went over it in the phone with them today, and they don’t think I will get enough points at the moment to qualify for PIP. It seems odd to me - I will never get better but I’m not entitled to any benefits at all.

I used to work as a Macmillan benefits advisor and would say give it a try anyway. You have nothing to lose. Alternatively you can look at the PIP descriptors online and assess yourself again in a few months time if things are worse. Are you having any treatments like chemotherapy or radiotherapy, do you have pain etc ? Please don't feel you have to answer this if too personal. To score points on the PIP descriptors you need to be able to do that activity reliably, repeatedly and in a reasonable time frame.

OhIdoLike2bBesideTheSeaside · 16/01/2023 19:25

Outfor150 · 13/01/2023 22:33

Sorry to hijack the thread, but I was looking into putting in a PIP claim, but it seems so complicated. Mine is related to my worsening cancer that I’ve been dealing with for three years, but it keeps coming back. I have never claimed any benefits before and I’m a bit daunted. How are you meant to provide evidence? I have my many hospital letters but they just talk about my health, not what I can’t do any more.

Sorry to hear of your diagnosis - please contact Macmillan they will help you ❤️

www.macmillan.org.uk/cancer-information-and-support/impacts-of-cancer/benefits-and-financial-support

hiredandsqueak · 16/01/2023 19:36

My son's award was supposed to end next month. I filled in the renewal when it arrived in August and he was given an indefinite award within four weeks had no phone call or anything. It was completely unexpected as had had to go to Tribunal to get the award in the first place as they awarded only two points. There doesn't seem to be rhyme nor reason to the decisions they make.

Nat6999 · 16/01/2023 19:36

Ds had renewal forms sent back in August last year, we still haven't heard anything.

jmh740 · 16/01/2023 19:51

I applied in April had my interview last week after it had been rearranged 3 times by them

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 16/01/2023 20:00

Jobcentre staff shouldn’t be pressurising you into work because of PIP because it’s not an out of work benefit. If you’re claiming ESA in the work related group that’s a different matter as the eligibility rules state that you have to comply with job search, so they can sanction you if you fail to comply - your benefit is time limited to 12 months during which time you should receive extra help to find work before benefit expires. That said, jobcentre staff have absolutely no input into your eligibility or otherwise for PIP - that’s down to independent assessors and DWP decision makers who are nothing to do with jobcentre staff. As long as you continue to qualify and the assessor is happy that your elgibility is ongoing - even better if you can provide independent medical evidence to support your claim - then you’ll be OK. My partner was sent a review form for PIP at the end of August and only received his decision last week, so the backlog is a few months in this area.

AngelDelightUK · 16/01/2023 20:03

My forms were sent back in June for renewal. Haven’t heard anything except for an occasional text message saying they have my form and will be in touch soon

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 16/01/2023 20:07

Outfor150 · 13/01/2023 22:33

Sorry to hijack the thread, but I was looking into putting in a PIP claim, but it seems so complicated. Mine is related to my worsening cancer that I’ve been dealing with for three years, but it keeps coming back. I have never claimed any benefits before and I’m a bit daunted. How are you meant to provide evidence? I have my many hospital letters but they just talk about my health, not what I can’t do any more.

If you have a MacMillan adviser you can apply for PIP via them provided you’re below retirement age, in which case you could claim attendance allowance. There is a fast track arrangement for cancer sufferers but that requires a terminal diagnosis (not expected to live beyond 12 months), in which case you would automatically qualify for the higher rate care component - the mobility component depends on whether the cancer affects your ability to move around. Your hospital letters are actually the type of medical evidence that DWP require to support a claim. They may not talk about what you can and can’t do but the DWP assessors will get an idea of what your condition entails and will consider what’s contained in them when assessing your claim.

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 16/01/2023 20:08

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 16/01/2023 20:07

If you have a MacMillan adviser you can apply for PIP via them provided you’re below retirement age, in which case you could claim attendance allowance. There is a fast track arrangement for cancer sufferers but that requires a terminal diagnosis (not expected to live beyond 12 months), in which case you would automatically qualify for the higher rate care component - the mobility component depends on whether the cancer affects your ability to move around. Your hospital letters are actually the type of medical evidence that DWP require to support a claim. They may not talk about what you can and can’t do but the DWP assessors will get an idea of what your condition entails and will consider what’s contained in them when assessing your claim.

Sorry, that’s not clear - I meant to say that if you’re below retirement age you can claim PIP. If you’re pensionable age you can claim attendance allowance. The only difference is that with PIP there is a mobility component, with attendance allowance, there isn’t.

Turning16 · 17/01/2023 11:05

My niece moved to PIP from DLA 2 years ago when she turned 16. The letter then said she had it till August 2023 but last week my sister had a review pack. I had helped her with the forms last time so popped round yesterday thinking it would be an all day job but it just had questions about how anything had changed and what different help she now got.

it said not to send copies of reports sent previously but there’s not much new to add.

does this mean that they might actually stop the award before August? Or is it unlikely that they will have processed it that quickly?

sister relies on it to do some special activities for my niece but if money potentially is going to stop sooner that expected she might have to alter the frequency and taper it off.

thanks

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 18/01/2023 21:58

Turning16 · 17/01/2023 11:05

My niece moved to PIP from DLA 2 years ago when she turned 16. The letter then said she had it till August 2023 but last week my sister had a review pack. I had helped her with the forms last time so popped round yesterday thinking it would be an all day job but it just had questions about how anything had changed and what different help she now got.

it said not to send copies of reports sent previously but there’s not much new to add.

does this mean that they might actually stop the award before August? Or is it unlikely that they will have processed it that quickly?

sister relies on it to do some special activities for my niece but if money potentially is going to stop sooner that expected she might have to alter the frequency and taper it off.

thanks

DWP routinely send out review paperwork six months or so in advance of an award end date to allow for backlogs. It doesn’t mean the award will end sooner unless they get around to reviewing her before the end date and her condition has changed sufficiently to mean she is no longer entitled. If you have completed the review form to say that her condition has not changed for the better then you probably don’t have much to worry about. DWP won’t accept medical evidence that has been used to make a previous benefit award, so you’re right not to send anything you’ve provided previously, but if you have copies of hospital letters or anything similar, issued in the meantime and these can be used to support the fact that the condition is still the same, you should definitely send copies with the review form. The only other thing I would say, is that you should treat the review form with the same care as the original application and give as full information as possible - that way there is less chance of your niece being called in for a face to face assessment if there’s anything left in doubt.

marshmell · 01/02/2023 21:09

my pip renewal was due at the start of covid finally had my telephone appointment today It taken roughly 2yrs. I did end up ringing them up and getting them to send out a letter to say I was still getting pip as all i kept getting were 3-month extension messages on my phone and messages saying that they hadn't forgotten about me. if my pip increases i wonder how far back they will backdate it.