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State pension when have previously been contracted out

31 replies

Knid · 05/01/2023 19:48

Ive been checking my state pension entitlement but despite the explanations on the government website I still don’t understand the implications of having been contracted out in the past.

My forecast says that in 4 years, I will have accumulated my full NI contributions for a full state pension, which it shows as a forecast of £185.15 a week. I’m 52, so will be working more years than that. But it says that I have been contracted out in the past (was in a final salary work scheme for a while) and my ‘COPE’ value is about £34 a week.

Does that mean I will get my state pension amount minus the COPE amount, so forecast of about £150, or get the full state pension amount of £185.15 (forecast) regardless? The government info seems to say both of these things at the same time!

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WuTangGran · 07/01/2023 19:58

RedDiamond · 06/01/2023 16:20

I have just checked my pension forecast thanks to information here. It says I was opted out to the equivalent of £44.10 per week. It also says I have 44 years NI contributions so far and that I cannot increase the maximum amount of £185.00 per week. So I take it that I am going to be paid the full £185pw pension from that. I still have 7 years until I can take my state pension.

Goodness knows where the COPE pension actually is nowadays...

Start here: www.gov.uk/find-pension-contact-details

AlmondBake · 07/01/2023 21:17

I'm glad I found this thread as I checked my state pension online today and am confused!

I'm retired with a civil service pension and a year or so off state pension age. The government website says I will get £185 pw if I contribute another year's NI (not going to happen) otherwise I will get £182 pw.

It also says I was contacted out and my COPE estimate is £68.55 pw. I'm assuming this won't be deducted from the £182 pw as the top of the page talks about the £182 being what I will get - rather than what I will get minus any COPE amount. Does that sound right to people?

A further puzzle is that my NI record states 'full year' for each of the 2 years I was in the sixth form and says I have 50 weeks' credit for each of those 2 years. I didn't even have a Saturday job in the sixth form, so how can that be?

Apparently I have 43 years' full contributions.

Took me ages to work my way through the government site so I was hoping the information would be easier to understand!

Alexandra2001 · 07/01/2023 21:33

Be mindful the COPE amount is an estimate, in my case, it says £55 per week... the reality is its less then £25....

Private DC pensions schemes are not all that great.

Sunsetintheeast · 07/01/2023 21:43

AlmondBake · 07/01/2023 21:17

I'm glad I found this thread as I checked my state pension online today and am confused!

I'm retired with a civil service pension and a year or so off state pension age. The government website says I will get £185 pw if I contribute another year's NI (not going to happen) otherwise I will get £182 pw.

It also says I was contacted out and my COPE estimate is £68.55 pw. I'm assuming this won't be deducted from the £182 pw as the top of the page talks about the £182 being what I will get - rather than what I will get minus any COPE amount. Does that sound right to people?

A further puzzle is that my NI record states 'full year' for each of the 2 years I was in the sixth form and says I have 50 weeks' credit for each of those 2 years. I didn't even have a Saturday job in the sixth form, so how can that be?

Apparently I have 43 years' full contributions.

Took me ages to work my way through the government site so I was hoping the information would be easier to understand!

You should pay class 3 NI for that one year! Best £800 you can spend, you’ll get it back in 3 years

AlmondBake · 07/01/2023 21:44

"You should pay class 3 NI for that one year! Best £800 you can spend, you’ll get it back in 3 years"

How would I go about doing that?

Sunsetintheeast · 07/01/2023 22:18

www.gov.uk/pay-voluntary-class-3-national-insurance

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