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Pip for unilateral hearing loss

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SomeCommonThing · 05/01/2023 17:40

I'm thinking of applying for pip for one sided hearing loss, I've been moderately deaf in that ear for as long as I can remember and have worn a hearing aid since I was a child.
I feel my hearing is getting worse and have an appointment to request another hearing test, I have also finally accepted I actually have a disability, and decided to maybe try apply for pip.
I was wondering if anyone on here had any experience of claiming for a similar condition?

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TheShellBeach · 05/01/2023 18:25

Seriously - ask on the AMA thread which is current

WhatDoYouWantNow · 05/01/2023 18:25

You need to score so many points for PIP. I had a stroke and get the lower rate of PIP

SomeCommonThing · 05/01/2023 18:26

JudithHarper · 05/01/2023 18:18

I get PIP because of my deafness. Not fully deaf but heavy loss in each ear. As you may know, you need to concentrate on questions 9 and 11.

For question 9, I wrote about the difficulties of phone calls and face to face conversations. I mentioned the stress of speaking to strangers who may treat you as stupid if they have to keep repeating things. I also mentioned the difficulties with group conversations, as you cannot keep up with everyone talking at once. I mentioned the difficulties in hearing smoke alarms, fire alarms and emergency vehicle sirens. I also mentioned places like doctors or dentists that may call people in via a loudspeaker.

For question 11, I spoke about the difficulties I have socialising and the feelings of stress and anxiety that arise in such situations. I mentioned that conversations often have to be relayed via Alan, which can be difficult and time consuming.

Look on deaf charity websites for help in how to fill the form in. I just googled 'PIP for deafness'. You just have to to think about your own personal problems you encounter and tailor your answer to them.

Be aware that you will almost certainly be refused PIP initially. Appeal it. People who are trying it on will generally not bother with an appeal. I initally scored zero points so I told them to actually look at my answers again and I was then awarded enough points for standard rate care.

Good luck.

Thank you so much for this, this is really helpful. I definitely relate to stress about talking to new people who might just think I'm stupid. So often I'll ask someone to repeat themselves numerous times and eventually just give up.

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NotMyDayJob · 05/01/2023 18:27

Adeckofcards · 05/01/2023 18:24

Caravanbuckie is right though. What she would spend it on doesn't add anything to the OP's original question and doesn't apply as to if she is/isn't eligible.

Then seriously, OP can tell me they don't know/it's none of my business/to bog off.

It wasn't a loaded question. I was genuinely interested if there was something they were aware of that was helpful.

OP sorry if it was rude, I was genuinely interested if you had thought what you would use the money for. Since I am not DWP I didn't realise I shouldn't ask :/

Adeckofcards · 05/01/2023 18:32

NotMyDayJob · 05/01/2023 18:27

Then seriously, OP can tell me they don't know/it's none of my business/to bog off.

It wasn't a loaded question. I was genuinely interested if there was something they were aware of that was helpful.

OP sorry if it was rude, I was genuinely interested if you had thought what you would use the money for. Since I am not DWP I didn't realise I shouldn't ask :/

Your question was 'what would you spend it on' was rude. Really rude actually.

The OP doesn't need to tell anyone how she spends her money and its a highly unusual/inappropriate question to ask any adult or at least one who hasn't just won the lottery!

NotMyDayJob · 05/01/2023 18:34

Adeckofcards · 05/01/2023 18:32

Your question was 'what would you spend it on' was rude. Really rude actually.

The OP doesn't need to tell anyone how she spends her money and its a highly unusual/inappropriate question to ask any adult or at least one who hasn't just won the lottery!

And I've just apologised

TheShellBeach · 05/01/2023 18:38

SomeCommonThing · 05/01/2023 18:26

Thank you so much for this, this is really helpful. I definitely relate to stress about talking to new people who might just think I'm stupid. So often I'll ask someone to repeat themselves numerous times and eventually just give up.

91% of claimants do not appeal.
Surely they're not all "trying it on"!

TheShellBeach · 05/01/2023 18:39

mrstickletum · 05/01/2023 18:01

I too am 100% deaf in one ear and work on call centre with a headset on my 'good' ear .

Do you get PIP?

SomeCommonThing · 05/01/2023 18:49

TheShellBeach · 05/01/2023 18:38

91% of claimants do not appeal.
Surely they're not all "trying it on"!

I think you were trying to quote the person I was quoting, I'd certainly never think people were trying it on.

That's an interesting stat though, I didn't know that.

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TheShellBeach · 05/01/2023 18:50

SomeCommonThing · 05/01/2023 18:49

I think you were trying to quote the person I was quoting, I'd certainly never think people were trying it on.

That's an interesting stat though, I didn't know that.

You're right. I did quote the wrong person. Sorry.

ManyNameChanges · 05/01/2023 18:52

Well I’d say you can try.
But be aware that it’s very difficult to get PIP. A lot of people with very clear issues are told they are fine
Think comments such as you’ve had your A level 25 years ago therefore you can follow instructions even though your condition has developed 5 years ago.

So yes you can.

But I really couldn’t be bothered with the hassle and the stress of applying for PIP if I didn’t need to.

mrstickletum · 05/01/2023 18:53

No I didn't claim pip for my hearing loss, wouldn't have thought I was eligible

MeMyBooksAndMyCats · 05/01/2023 18:56

PIP is about care needs and you'll need evidence of these needs.

ManyNameChanges · 05/01/2023 18:59

TheShellBeach · 05/01/2023 18:38

91% of claimants do not appeal.
Surely they're not all "trying it on"!

Plenty of reason why people don’t appeal too
.Too stressful
Not knowing they can or how to do it
Depressed/anxious so can’t face the MR, let alone tribunal

A lot if claims are awarded at MR or once you’ve told DWP you are going to tribunal 🙄🙄

But it will take you 12~18 months.
Too long and too stressful fir people who can’t actually work and are desperate for a little of money to survive.
You might not feel that way.

TheShellBeach · 05/01/2023 19:03

ManyNameChanges · 05/01/2023 18:59

Plenty of reason why people don’t appeal too
.Too stressful
Not knowing they can or how to do it
Depressed/anxious so can’t face the MR, let alone tribunal

A lot if claims are awarded at MR or once you’ve told DWP you are going to tribunal 🙄🙄

But it will take you 12~18 months.
Too long and too stressful fir people who can’t actually work and are desperate for a little of money to survive.
You might not feel that way.

I completely agree and I think you've misunderstood me.
I was responding to someone who thought only people who were trying it on didn't bother to appeal.
I know all about the distress of having to appeal. I've done it twice myself and nearly killed myself over the stress.

Itisbetter · 05/01/2023 19:04

I’m not sure the level of need is high enough but applying will answer that for you. I DO think it’s interesting and helpful to think what you would use the money for and how it would alleviate your difficulties/disadvantages.

TheShellBeach · 05/01/2023 19:05

mrstickletum · 05/01/2023 18:53

No I didn't claim pip for my hearing loss, wouldn't have thought I was eligible

You may not be right. Have a look at the RNID website and what it says about PIP.

TheShellBeach · 05/01/2023 19:06

Itisbetter · 05/01/2023 19:04

I’m not sure the level of need is high enough but applying will answer that for you. I DO think it’s interesting and helpful to think what you would use the money for and how it would alleviate your difficulties/disadvantages.

FFS The DWP do not ask this!

Itisbetter · 05/01/2023 19:09

@TheShellBeachFFS The DWP do not ask this!. it’s extremely helpful however when building a case and thinking about what is worth evidencing. You are attacking an attitude that I don’t hold. Take a deep breath.

TheShellBeach · 05/01/2023 19:12

Itisbetter · 05/01/2023 19:09

@TheShellBeachFFS The DWP do not ask this!. it’s extremely helpful however when building a case and thinking about what is worth evidencing. You are attacking an attitude that I don’t hold. Take a deep breath.

If they do not ask you do not need to provide evidence.

Itisbetter · 05/01/2023 19:16

Yes but it helps to identify what you could/should include. OP is at the beginning of thinking about applying. I’m surprised at your attitude. PIP is designed to level playing fields and identify what you would use it for is a fairly obvious route to focusing your application.

SomeCommonThing · 05/01/2023 19:17

As it seems to be relevant to some posters, Any award would be used for daily living. There are certain things I cannot do or avoid doing to accommodate the hearing loss, such as use public transport. I can't hear the announcements and find it too stressful and it makes me really anxious to try and get on the train, so would use it to contribute to the running of my car to get to work.
I will avoid certain shops and stores and pay more to order online unless DH can be with me at the store to speak to the sales people. Being completely honest I will pay for my hearing aid batteries as the NHS often give me the wrong ones for my aid and it's a 40 min drive to the clinic. Whether people deem this good enough or not I don't know.
As an aside I actually find my hearing aid makes it worse sometimes as it amplifies all sounds which then makes it harder to follow one sound if that make sense.

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Itisbetter · 05/01/2023 19:25

Whether people deem this good enough or not I don't know.. I don’t think it’s about what other people think is good enough. You have to fit the criteria to get the points but it sounds like communication and participation could be a focus. It’s a really upsetting and time consuming process.

SomeCommonThing · 05/01/2023 19:28

Itisbetter · 05/01/2023 19:25

Whether people deem this good enough or not I don't know.. I don’t think it’s about what other people think is good enough. You have to fit the criteria to get the points but it sounds like communication and participation could be a focus. It’s a really upsetting and time consuming process.

I feel I worded this badly, I meant the DWP people. But I definitely could have phrased this might better.

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TheShellBeach · 05/01/2023 20:33

Itisbetter · 05/01/2023 19:16

Yes but it helps to identify what you could/should include. OP is at the beginning of thinking about applying. I’m surprised at your attitude. PIP is designed to level playing fields and identify what you would use it for is a fairly obvious route to focusing your application.

It is irrelevant because the DWP just look at a series of descriptors and ask how well the claimant can do them.
There is literally nowhere on the form for the claimant to write what they plan to do with any money awarded.

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