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Council compensation for ice injury

68 replies

Justjoinedforthis · 29/12/2022 10:29

I fractures my wrist walking very carefully down my iced over road, this is in London and it was a well used residential street. I saw so many other people have bad falls, and this was after three days of solid ice.

I honestly hate the culture of compensation, it’s not about the money - I could donate that (or use it to buy a grit box for our street!) but I feel I really want them to do a better job next icy period. I had emailed about how icy it was and got palmed off.

Does anyone have experience of this, in regards to ice? Or should I just let it go. For the record I am not one of these ‘anti council’ types who are always complaining, I generally love the council bit this was really lethal.

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DomesticShortHair · 29/12/2022 15:00

Actually going against the grain, I agree with you OP. I was equally disgusted that my local council didn’t provide parasols and iced tea drinking stations at pedestrian crossings during the long hot summer we had. There’s a lot of focus on the fact that councils aren’t carrying out the things that they are responsible for at the moment, when really, they should be focusing on delivering the things that they aren’t.

Quveas · 29/12/2022 15:01

The Council is only responsible for things that they can control - they cannot control when it is icy, and they cannot afford to grit all the pavements and streets that you'd like to use.

Us up north, you know, where it's icy more than twice a year, have to - shock, horror - buy our own grit / salt, and wear appropriate footwear. Though it does remind me of the person who decided to try to sue the local council (they failed) because they fell and supposedly injured themelves on wet leaves. They were walking around a tree-filled park, in autumn, in the rain. Who'd have thunk there might to wet leaves on the ground??? As I said, they didn't win but the council ended up have to put up signs in all the local parks pointing out that people should take care because wet leaves can be slippery. Perhaps London authorities need signs pointing out that ice might be slippery?

rwalker · 29/12/2022 15:06

Christ what ever happened to common sense and taking responsibility for yourself

stay in or as others said those grips for your shoes

love the “it’s not about money and I’d donate it”

why an earth do people expect there arse wiping for them nowadays

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 29/12/2022 15:07

If it’s eg the pavement next to a local station then I could see why this should be gritted (and was where I live) but as others say, the council can’t grit all the side roads and I’m not sure what’s happened in recent years but I don’t see grit boxes on streets as I used to do.

The recent snow was unexpected too. Where I live is on of the hilliest parts of London and it really is lethal on those hills. I was lucky enough that I didn’t have to go out every day and if I did I was really careful and wore correct footwear (I did ask here for recommendations on boots).

The council won’t be interested in a claim, I’m sorry you fractured your wrist, but I do hope they install a new grit box.

justasking111 · 29/12/2022 15:11

Our council policy is not to grit pavements or side roads . We're in a cul de sac with a bin at the top of the hill. So you need to get up there take a bucket and start spreading yourself. Only the road though

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 29/12/2022 15:19

DreamingOfAGreenChristmas · 29/12/2022 14:31

I have never known any London council grit or salt pavements on residential roads and can’t imagine how they would suddenly rustle up the capacity to do it.

Totally unrealistic, which is why in countries where such conditions are common (Germany, Canada for e.g) citizens have a responsibility for the patch in front of their house.

Sadly no one in your road (or mine) showed that level of community responsibility.

I hope your wrist mends quickly.

London councils do salt and grit residential roads and pavements, at least before the pandemic they did in my areas and certainly where I live and used to work (also London areas).

They gritted and salted pavements when there was recent snow this December too. They were a bit late as the snow was unexpected and they didn’t expect it to ice over. Even on our high street level pavements there was grit and certainly leading from the station. Similar when I started a new job, the area all around there was gritted and salted, not all of it but certainly accessible areas used by walking.

What I’ve noticed is no or very few grit boxes, they were around when there was last heavy unexpected snow in I think 2010 onwards but not seen them or not much, since.

NewYearNora · 29/12/2022 15:34

yaflouloci · 29/12/2022 12:21

Your local council should have a map of local grit bins for public use on public paths. If it's empty there should also be a report option to request a re-fill.

I live in the borough of Enfield and have never seen a grit bin.

AriettyHomily · 29/12/2022 15:35

I'm in a London borough. They grit main roads, not residential. Our street has a 'snow friends' scheme, those that are able have shovels and grit. The road is icy, we are on a hill, so the snow friends grit and shovel if needed.

AriettyHomily · 29/12/2022 15:36

Oh and there haven't been grit boxes in the main roads for years, they've all been removed.

pd339 · 29/12/2022 15:38

You and your neighbours could "do better" yourselves by clearing the excess snow next time? Or do you just want to watch other people doing it and then moan when they don't? Bloody people, honestly.

Stunningscreamer · 29/12/2022 15:42

Sorry but when we can't afford functioning A&E departments or social care, you falling over is the least of our problems. Accidents happen and aren't always someone else's fault!

NewYearNora · 29/12/2022 15:43

LuluBlakey1 · 29/12/2022 11:59

Has Enfield been badly affected by 'deep' snow and thick ice? My cousin lives in Wembley and he hasn't. He's been out running every day.

I live in Enfield and yes it was pretty bad here. Considerably deeper than west or south London where I have family. I would say we had 6 inches dumped from the sky in just 3 hours. I have only once before seen such deep snow here, in 20 years of living here.

It was very icy on almost all the pavements here for a full week and OP is right that there was little / no pavement gritting, except at transport hubs (which might have been done by station staff). I too felt it was rather negligent; however the snow we had was exceptional.

The main roads were pretty much fine for driving on though, after 24 hours - so they must have gritted them.

BungleandGeorge · 29/12/2022 15:58

@NewYearNora were you guys not affected by the ‘beast from the east’? We had 6 foot drifts here!

Crazycrazylady · 29/12/2022 18:11

It's totally impractical that every residential area is gritted in the event of ice. Talks of suing is nonsense.

Kerrybemmy · 03/01/2023 09:47

My dad used to grit the roads, it would be impossible to grit every single road and pavement, what happens when it inevitably ices over again. It is impossible for every street to be gritted. Personal responsibility has to come into play, the Council can't be sued because of natural events. Buy gripped boots or shoes.

TrentCrimm · 03/01/2023 09:52

NewYearNora · 29/12/2022 15:43

I live in Enfield and yes it was pretty bad here. Considerably deeper than west or south London where I have family. I would say we had 6 inches dumped from the sky in just 3 hours. I have only once before seen such deep snow here, in 20 years of living here.

It was very icy on almost all the pavements here for a full week and OP is right that there was little / no pavement gritting, except at transport hubs (which might have been done by station staff). I too felt it was rather negligent; however the snow we had was exceptional.

The main roads were pretty much fine for driving on though, after 24 hours - so they must have gritted them.

6 inches? Wow Shock

Hope we never get to experience extremes like that up here in the north! Grin

ConkersandString · 03/01/2023 09:56

Why don't you do what we do OP? Club together with your neighbours and buy some grid and salt?

Minimalme · 03/01/2023 10:04

When it snows, just clear it with a shovel,

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