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Better off not working

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TitanAX · 22/11/2022 20:04

The government and media seem to all state that we have more vacancies for work than ever before. The reason for this is that many of the jobs on offer are not reflecting the current living cost crisis, so the salaries are appallingly low, who in their right mind would opt to go back to work when they know what will hit them is poverty and hardships? I was ill health retired ten years ago, and subsequently get an occupational pension, that is topped up with legacy benefits. Back in 2013, I was advised in no uncertain terms NOT to opt for UC and I took the advice, whilst benefits froze, I was substantially better off, even now during the economic crisis, cost of living crisis, inflation soaring and interests rates hiking, I am still better off. I've been part of the Civil Service for most of my working life, reasonably well educated (I have an undergraduate degree (2:1), a masters degree (merit), both business related, plus and ILM award, three professional accreditations and two vocational qualifications- with the usual GCE A-levels and GCSE's.
Two years after ill health retirement I really did try to scramble to return to full time employment, don't believe what you are told in terms of employers being sympathetic or empathetic in helping someone who is registered disabled back into the workplace, I have had much the opposite reaction AFTER the potential employer has seen my qualifications and in-work achievements. In the time that followed I did take voluntary work in the community and that did not really pay off positively either, although I am able to put this on my CV so it does not look as if I have been lying in bed for the last ten years waiting for something to land in my lap or drop out of the sky. It has not and it will not.
So, more recently I have started to re-apply again for paid employment, and there is an abundance of jobs, that whilst comprise of the work I wish to do, does not have the salary that I will need to sustain the occupation unless I try and find a second job to supplement my income and boost/supplement it to anywhere levels that I can afford. This is a dreadful situation to find ones self in. Retirement has all but destroyed my sanity and soul, and due to poor economic management which began with a Labour Government, (out of the banking crisis 2008), it appears that administration has screwed my generation. I hope the Tories remain in power, because I fear that a Labour Government will end any hopes for me to gain full time, well paid employment in one job, with one employer.
I will have to find two jobs just to make ends meet and I have the added burden of being disabled as well. I want to get back into work, a hard days work is good for you well being both physically and mentally.

I sympathises with those in a similar predicament- even those who are not disabled. If only Labour had made all the right decisions many years ago, the Tories would not have had to have made the decisions of austerity, which as a knock on effect, I might have been able to have worked from home under the Department I used to work for. One thing is for sure we all need to vote Tory next time around and keep these damned socialists out of government for at least another decade. Thank God for Corbyn, he made the left un-enticing and unattractive to the most pedestrian of voters. We MUST allocate the blame to New Labour. The tories have helped us all, EVEN the Truss administration had good intentions and that is the only foul up the administration has made in twelve years of Tory rule, that is damned good going in my opinion.

Has anyone else had a similar experience as myself? How did you overcome hurdles of re-entry back into full time paid employment? Do you feel embittered towards the way New Labour paved the way for the situation the entire country now finds itself in? Maybe some people have a good argument or angle, I would like to read it. Pro Thatcherites are as welcome to comment as much as pro Blair-ites / Brown-ites.

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ForestDad · 22/11/2022 20:07

So you're blaming the current economic problems on the Labour govt from 12+ years ago?

To solve your problems I'd recommend you stop reading the Express as a starter.

Create10 · 22/11/2022 20:08

due to poor economic management which began with a Labour Government, (out of the banking crisis 2008), it appears that administration has screwed my generation. I hope the Tories remain in power, because I fear that a Labour Government will end any hopes for me to gain full time, well paid employment in one job, with one employer.

Er, the Tories have been in power for twelve and a half years.

ShipwreckSunset · 22/11/2022 20:27

Wind up merchant.

RandomPerson42 · 22/11/2022 20:45

Well to be fair, Labour did introduce the Tax Credits system in 2003 which meant lots of people were better of not working and started the current issue of big companies just using the benefits system to subsidise their low wages.

Labour also piled on the government debt which the tories had to then try and sort out with austerity measures and by replacing tax credits with UC.

Then we’ve had 12 years of tories with the last two being tory governents that were even worse financially than labour - they gave away billions to their mates and billions in fake / fraudulent business loans - resulting in the mess we are in now.

So do we want labour in who always only know how to spend money or the tories that are now even worse (they spend the same amount of money but give half of it to their mates)?

Hoppinggreen · 22/11/2022 21:35

very unusual writing style, almost as if it was a Bot or similar

Babyroobs · 22/11/2022 21:37

People currently on Uc who have been assessed as having limited capability for work or limited capability for work and work related activity can return to work and not lose that UC element for some time as a way of testing out whether they can return to work. It allows people to do part time work whilst keeping that extra element and still get a work allowance meaning a proportion of their wages are disregarded before deductions happen. This is designed to allow people who due to illness cannot work full time, to return gradually and build up hours. If they are able to hold down a job they may lose that element at their next re-assessment but it definately gives people time to try to return to work without being penalised and not be pushed to look for more hours than they can manage.

Notplayingball · 22/11/2022 21:43

🤡

binkie163 · 22/11/2022 21:59

Is this a spoof post?

There have always been recessions and rubbish governments. You worked for the civil service, you were part of the problem, bloated over paid departments paid for by our taxes, your occupational pension paid by our taxes and your 10 year benefits paid by our taxes.

You may find in the private sector your very high opinion of yourself would not be shared by prospective employers, if you interview in a similar vein as your post, I would think you were bonkers.

Thisismynamenow · 24/11/2022 17:45

binkie163 · 22/11/2022 21:59

Is this a spoof post?

There have always been recessions and rubbish governments. You worked for the civil service, you were part of the problem, bloated over paid departments paid for by our taxes, your occupational pension paid by our taxes and your 10 year benefits paid by our taxes.

You may find in the private sector your very high opinion of yourself would not be shared by prospective employers, if you interview in a similar vein as your post, I would think you were bonkers.

You think civil servants get bloated pay. 😂😂😂

I get paid £40k per year and its been that level for about 6+ years. I found multiple postings on linked in from the private sector to do the same job for £80k a year.

If I wasn't in need of condensed hours and on maternity leave I'd of jumped.

Qualityh20 · 24/11/2022 18:09

It actually says 'bloated over paid departments'

MrsDoyle351 · 26/11/2022 07:36

If only Labour had made all the right decisions many years ago, the Tories would not have had to have made the decisions of austerity, which as a knock on effect, I might have been able to have worked from home under the Department I used to work for. One thing is for sure we all need to vote Tory next time around

If only the Tories hadn't ruined the economy/country with Brexit and the 'mini-budget' for the next couple of decades...Oh and they are dismantling the NHS brick by brick - enjoy OP

I don't think voting the bastards in for another few years is going to be beneficial.

Sindonym · 26/11/2022 07:39

Is this a piss take? Or a Russian backed Tory bot?

MissTrip82 · 26/11/2022 08:32

Hahahhahahah.

I can only imagine what a Tory would make of someone thinking that after TEN YEARS of not working (with state support……) they should walk into well-paid employment of their choosing.

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