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Mortgage overpayments - universal credit

14 replies

Turnaroundandigone · 31/10/2022 16:34

Would regular mortgage overpayments be an issue if claiming universal credit? Wasn't sure of this would fall foul of deprivation of capital as it is paying a debt that isn't yet due.

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Babyroobs · 31/10/2022 20:16

I wouldn't have thought that people needing to claim UC would have much left to overpay mortgages.

Fluffydiamond · 31/10/2022 20:18

Surely if you have enough money to overpay a mortgage you don't need UC?

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 31/10/2022 20:22

Are you trying to overpay to reduce savings to get under the limit to claim? If so then yes it would class as deprivation of assets

Teenangels · 31/10/2022 20:23

Any savings over 16,000 would stop UC, if you have between £6000-16,000 your payment will be reduced.

Where is the money coming from an inheritance, savings, a gift?

Babyroobs · 31/10/2022 20:23

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 31/10/2022 20:22

Are you trying to overpay to reduce savings to get under the limit to claim? If so then yes it would class as deprivation of assets

But paying off a debt is not deprivation of assets so may be ok.

Teenangels · 31/10/2022 20:38

Babyroobs · 31/10/2022 20:23

But paying off a debt is not deprivation of assets so may be ok.

Regular overpayments to keep below the saving threshold will be seen as a deprivation of assets.

Turnaroundandigone · 31/10/2022 21:41

It's not to keep below the savings threshold, it's to pay my mortgage on a known fixed rate to reduce the impact of future rate rises on my monthly payments. If possible i would like to pay an extra £100 a month.The current situation is worrying me greatly. I can't increase my working hours due to caring responsibility. I'm not claiming anything at the moment but I would be entitled.

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BattenburgDonkey · 31/10/2022 21:43

If you don’t have savings I can’t see how it would be deprivation of capital really

Soontobe60 · 31/10/2022 21:44

So where are the funds coming from to overpay?

Turnaroundandigone · 31/10/2022 21:53

If I claimed uc I would be entitled to circa £500 per month, this would allow us to live more comfortably and potentially make a small overpayment on mortgage. I just wasn't sure if I would be allowed to do this. I know little about benefits, I've never claimed any.

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Soontobe60 · 31/10/2022 22:00

Turnaroundandigone · 31/10/2022 21:53

If I claimed uc I would be entitled to circa £500 per month, this would allow us to live more comfortably and potentially make a small overpayment on mortgage. I just wasn't sure if I would be allowed to do this. I know little about benefits, I've never claimed any.

It’s one thing to use benefits to pay the regular mortgage payments, it’s quite a different matter to use it to overpay though. You must already live very frugally if you’d qualify for means tested benefits but could overpay something that doesn’t need to be overpaid if you received said benefits.

titchy · 31/10/2022 22:03

There's no restriction on how you spend your UC as long as you have less than the savings limit. So claim!

WelfareRights · 31/10/2022 22:07

Paying off debt is not deprivation of capital for UC. It's in the legislation (UC regs 2013):

Notional capital
50....

(2) A person is not to be treated as depriving themselves of capital if the person disposes of it for the purposes of—

(a)reducing or paying a debt owed by the person; or
(b)purchasing goods or services if the expenditure was reasonable in the circumstances of the person’s case.

Turnaroundandigone · 01/11/2022 07:36

Soontobe60 · 31/10/2022 22:00

It’s one thing to use benefits to pay the regular mortgage payments, it’s quite a different matter to use it to overpay though. You must already live very frugally if you’d qualify for means tested benefits but could overpay something that doesn’t need to be overpaid if you received said benefits.

I am pretty frugal. Car is owned outright, mortgage is low. I have no other debt.

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