Can you uc sanction you for leaving work

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So I started work in a nursery was meant to be only part time 3 days a week, my daughter also attends this nursery they spoke on Friday about me coming in every day I said I don’t want to I want to stick to part time my daughter is only 1 so I still want some days of to spend with her, she’s at her dads all weekend , I’m gonna be payinf more in nursery fees, losing more in uc, I feel like quiting it’s not a good nUrsery anyway . Can I get sanctioned if I quit

Read what people have written rather than just repeating the same things over and over.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO WORK FULL TIME. JUST SAY, SORRY NO I CAN'T.

They cannot force you to come in every day, you do not have to make up an excuse, you do not have to explain yourself. You applied for a part time job, you accepted a part time job, you don't need to agree to full time hours.

All the extra bits you're adding now about it being a bad nursery and not liking your daughter being there are a separate issue. I don't really understand why you would pick to enrol your child in a nursery rated as inadequate by Ofsted?

She said to me it was never agreed that those were ur permanent days , when it was she said to me I’d only be doing these days , she is not saying it’s just this week full time but it’s still defeating my point it’s gonna mess all my money up and mess my daughter about with her sleep, but there not giving mw no option

They're probably desperately short staffed so trying to persuade you to do my shifts, but you don't have to. Don't use your daughter not sleeping as a reason, you need to assert yourself and say 'no thank you, Im not looking for full time hours'. And repeat as necessary.

I wouldn't quit, it's good to practice being able to deal with challenging issues at work and stand your ground, you can't just quit because something you don't like. If you're not happy there, look for another job but don't hand your notice in until you secure one.

When I worked there it wasn’t rated , as it was new , it looked ok on my interview ect then they were rated week after I joined and got inadequate, I’ve been looking for a new job ever since but it’s hard finding one I can take my daughter with me to I think my old work are gonna have me back but not till early next year and they will want references

Yes uc can sanction you for leaving work.

The obvious answer is not to leave your job, until you have another one lined up.

It's really irrelevant for you to keep going over what they are asking of you- it's a request, the fact is, you have contracted part time hours, so keep just saying 'no thanks'.

I’ve said to the several times , I don’t want to do full time I just want to do my part time says , but she’s just not having any of it I’ve told them no but she’s just saying oh it’s only till we get more staff ect, then she’s looked up online saying oh u won’t lose any uc u can earn so much ect … which it will affect it but even if it didn’t she shouldn’t be pressuring me when I already said multiple times I don’t want to

she’s just saying oh it’s only till we get more staff ect, then she’s looked up online saying oh u won’t lose any uc u can earn so much

Yes thanks, but I don't want to.

THEY CANT MAKE YOU WORK EXTRA HOURS.

I don't know why you are finding this a difficult concept to grasp. As I said, there must be something, somewhere in writing that you applied for and accepted a part-time position??? It sounds like you're wanting justification or permission from posters to quit. Quit if you must, but you may be sanctioned and it's not going to look good on your cv when applying for jobs in the future and may preclude you from obtaining a reference.

Just kept repeating - I can't, I can't, I can't. They can't collect you and carry you there. 'Do not put me down for extra shifts as I will not be there'!!!!!! Your univ credit will decrease yes but you will have extra wages so still be better off, however that's irrelevant as you aren't doing it!!!

I wouldn't leave your job and just stick to your guns that you work part time but just so you don't worry, if you have an under 3 year old, you do not have work commitments on UC but would be expected to work part time when they are 3. This means you will not and cannot be sanctioned for leaving a job

Okay thanks everyone I just find it hard Being assertive with people I always try to find excuses for things if I don’t want to do something as I feel like they will be funny with me at work and I don’t wanna feel uncomfortable there for the remaining time I’m there . It’s just really irritated me how I’ve told them no how many times and still gone and done it anyway . They aren’t giving me much option though I’ve said no I am only doing part time and she’s just trying to justify me doing full time still, I am just worried about getting a bad reference from them for my next job

I think there problem is they only have 4 qualified staff , 2 are managers , and me and this of girl who are both part time , the rest of apprentices, an they’re anticipating another ofsted visit because of the last one being inadequate so they’re probably trying to make sure there’s enough qualified staff in, but that’s no my problem they should of hired more qualified staff they can’t expect others to sort their mess out , if I wanted to I could leave them in the shit and quit l together then there would only be 3 staff in the whole nursery who are qualified

Yes you are right - they should have employed qualified full time staff but instead they have taken the cheap option then trying to tail road you in. I'd not do it even just for this week, not because it will mess up your UC as that's one of the few good things about uc over tax credits as it just automatically adjusts but because once you do it once it will quickly become an expectation. Time to get assertive.

I wouldn’t want my DD there if it was rated inadequate. I’d repeat that you are part time only.

I’m gonna hand my notice in on Monday I agreed to do it this week purely because they wouldn’t give me no other option, but I asked them earlier what days I’m of next week and they said I’m in every day again , my little ones not been sleeping much there either so it’s not fair for them to expect me to come in every day and jepredise ( no idea how u spell that) her sleep I wasn’t well either yesterday felt like I was literally about to collapse their response was “ everyone feels under the weather, we need to stick together and help each other out “.

When looking for a new job OP you need to be very firm about which hours and days you work and refuse to accept the job until it's written into the contract. You say they 'gave you no option' you need to give THEM no option. You say 'i think you have misunderstood me, I said I'm not able to work x day and y day you'll need to remove me from the rota on those days'. This week attend the days you are contracted to work and remind them each day that you will only be working your contracted days and will not be working extra.
Don't quit - they need you more than you need them right now so assert your rights. They'll back down as long as you are very, very firm. But don't quit until you have lined up another job to go to, you never quit a job til you have the next lined up.

Don't hand your notice it. Tell your manager that if they insist on you working full time, that is what will happen.

"I've made it clear I am working part time. If you keep trying to force me to work full time I will hand my notice in. You need to decide if you prefer me to work part time, or not at all"

If they are so short staffed, they might stop if they know the alternative is you leaving.

I don't get it. Surely you just go in on your contracted days. Tell them so sorry there is a mistake - I've already told you im not working those days. When they tell you every day next week you say that's not possible. I'll be in x days like normal.

I’ve literally just left they wasn’t even letting me take my dd to an important docs appt today , said I’ve got to do everyday I’ve told them no already? My dd not sleeping or eating much there either it’s not fair on her so I’ve messaged them told them I’m not coming back I told them I know ur short staffed but my child comes first , I should be able to go back to work at my old workplace in few months I’m hoping which is must better

Funny now that I actually left they decided to say I can just do my 3 days what I’ve been asking for all along haha

OP why on earth have you just left? You had great advice on here but I suspect you already decided you were going to leave

because I already said to them numerous times I only asked for part time shifts and I wasn’t doing full time , I compromised and did full time just this week we agreed . I asked for next weeks shifts they said oh you’re in every day I said to them I’m not going it I already agreed only this week then they said “ oh just till there’s more staff “ which I’m probs gonna be hearing very week . Also I felt very Ill the other day legit was about to collapse no way I could of made it to work I told work they said “ call ur docs now get an appt, if we can we will let u home early “ I called docs I had to anyway as my daughter needed an appt for something anyway which work knew about they said not to go to work and to come in today to the docs and mention it to the doctor at ur daughters appt. So I told work what they said and she sad why didn’t u tell them u can’t go then u have work , I was like are u serious u told me to call them up I don’t know what she was expecting them to say so I just didn’t go in then she was ignoring all my messages. It just pushed me to the edge tbh so I told them I’m leaving, but she’s messaged me today saying oh whay about if we give u the part time u asked for so I’m gonna see what they say